Thanks, Jonathan, I didn’t know that. I wonder why Apple is doing this, it’s not like they have a system that directly competes with something like Sonos.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos Hi Sieghard, Apple's AirPlay licensing expressly prohibits its use in multi-room systems, so Sonos isn't allowed to include it. This is also why it has been removed in newer versions of Bose SoundTouch. I would imagine that if Apple ever gets real about this, Sonos will be one of the first to jump on board. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 18/03/2016, at 3:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Right, I was thinking backwards! Using an Airport Express to give Sonos Airplay capability works well and is not terribly expensive, but of course it does require you to have a Sonos device with an input so if you have an apartment with just a couple of sets of Play 1 or Play 3 in the bedroom and living room you are out of luck. I still don’t understand why Sonos hasn’t opted to make their players Airplay capable out of the box, it can’t be that expensive to include that. From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 6:04 PM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos Hi Sieghard, the current generation of PLAY:5 also includes a line-in jack. It's just the output that has gone with the new generation. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training <http://mosen.org/> http://Mosen.org On 18/03/2016, at 1:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel < <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> siegh...@live.ca> wrote: Hi Annie, What Sonos products do you have? If you have anything with an input like a Connect Amp, Connect or one of the older Play 5 units you can simply connect the 3.5mm output of an Airport Express to the input on one of these Sonos devices. The Airport Express becomes a source and you can set it to autoplay if it receives a signal, then you Airplay to the Airport Express (I set mine up and called it Sonos) and as soon as you do it will play on one or several of your Sonos players. Regards, Sieghard From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 3:59 PM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos Hi Sieghard. What I really would like on sonos products would be an optical input. This is really a problem for me. I sometimes need to use airplay to send audio to sonos, and this is not really possible. Have you figured out a solution for that. Best regards Annie. Den 11. mar. 2016 kl. 17.46 skrev Sieghard Weitzel < <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> siegh...@live.ca>: Hi Jonathan, First of all, welcome to Sonos, I didn’t know you had bought into it, but it definitely is awesome. As for the Connect, I understand that I could get any wireless headset setup and plug it into the RCA line-out or Optical out on the Connect. But considering that most of the wireless headsets I would consider are between $300 and $500 I really was waiting for a true Sonos headset. If Somebody who wouldn’t normally need a Connect has to buy one just for that purpose then it also becomes a pretty expensive headset solution. When I bought my first Sonos products in 2009 it was 3 Connect Amp which then were called ZP120 and 2 Connect which were the ZP90 back then. They only had those players then and actually a set of stand-alone bookshelf type speakers. The Play 5 which started out as the S5 came I think in 2011 and I bought it then. Anyhow, I am still holding out for a native Sonos headset as I am convinced it will be coming at some point. My thought is that they do have to release a new product sometime and now that they have 3 portable players, a soundbar and Sub it must be something they consider especially considering that I am not the only one asking for it. I once talked to a Sonos customer service guy and mentioned it and he said he gets people asking for it on a pretty regular bases and you find stuff like “ <http://www.imore.com/dear-sonos-please-make-me-sonos-headphones> Dear Sonos, please make me headphones! | iMore” when you Google around for it. What I really like about Sonos is the longevity of their products. While my Zp120 units are now called Connect Amp and my ZP90 is now the Connect, they still are essentially the same units even though mine are now 7 years old. It’s nice to see a company that makes some good hardware which is then improved over time with software updates. The only Sonos product which was a bit of a flop was the 30-Pin dock which they sold back in the iPhone 4/4S days. It was I think around $120 at the time and basically was a dock which acted as a stand-alone player and it also had a headphone jack. I still have mine but of course haven’t used it in many years since I don’t feel I want to invest in a 30-Pin to Lightning adapter and if I really want my iPhone connected I have a RCA to 3.5mm cable plugged into the Connect Amp in my bedroom and I just plug it in there, but mostly I just use Airplay since I have an Airport Express connected to one of my other Connect Amp units to add Airplay to my Sonos system. That, by the way, would be one of my other very few items of criticism, I think at least the new players that were releaed in the last few years should have built-in Airplay compatibility and all 3 portable players, the Play 1, 3 and 5 should have a 3.5mm headphone jack. OK, off my soapbox I step since I have to get ready for work *smile*. Regards, Sieghard From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 6:37 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the Connect. You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device plugged into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing aids. You can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For example, we have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 5.1 surround sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos connect as well so I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing aids. But it could easily be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there. Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since iPhone. I love this stuff. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training <http://mosen.org/> http://Mosen.org On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel < <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> siegh...@live.ca> wrote: Hi Marie, Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them know they really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which would act as a separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at least the last 2 or 3 years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a product. Of course there are many situations where one would want to listen privately with a headset and considering how much of a focus there has been on headsets in the last few years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on that bandwagon. I think there could be either one of two products or both: one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend $500 to $1,000 or even more on true audio file quality wired headphones. I think a product around $500 to $700 US from Sonos would be the right price point and one where they could really make it sound awesome. The other product which I think should be a companion to the headphones would be a small iPhone-size or slightly thicker headphone amp with rechargeable battery, a quarter inch headphone jack and belt clip. This would be the product that connects to the Sonos system and acts as a separate player and it would allow users to plug in any headset or headphones they have from a cheap $20 pair of earbuds to a pair of Sennheiser HD800S for $1,699 which is probably about as good as it gets. A product like this should maybe cost $250 to $400 or $500 at most if they put in really good components and if Sonos were to make only one product I hope it would be this one as it offers a lot more flexibility with headsets users already own. Regards, Sieghard From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:50 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Sonos I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one earlier. Marie -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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