Mystery solved then.
> On 21 May 2016, at 19:50, Cheryl LeFurgey <clefur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm running itunes 11.4.
> Yes, I know, there's a newer version for xp, but I like 11, plus my
> IPhone will still sync fine, hense the mystery.
> 
> On 5/21/16, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What version of iTunes are you running? that's the only reason I can
>> imagine you wouldn't be told you'd be getting 9.3.2 after the restore. I
>> doubt Apple would actually start installing a version of IOS that isn't
>> even available any more and end up bricking your phone. If it were me,
>> I'd take the chance, but I definitely don't blame anyone for being more
>> cautious messing with a device that might be very critical in your daily
>> life.
>> 
>> On 21/05/16 13:43, Cheryl LeFurgey wrote:
>>> I dunno, the only time I put the ipod into DFU mode then clicked
>>> restore it offered me 9.1. I didn't go through with it because I know
>>> Apple isn't signing that firmware, so I don't want my ipod to become
>>> completely unusable.
>>> 
>>> On 5/21/16, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> It should restore to the current iOS version, 9.3.2.
>>>>> On 21 May 2016, at 14:04, Cheryl LeFurgey <clefur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another interesting thing i forgot to mention yesterday.
>>>>> I put my ipod into DFU mode just to see what it looked like, hit
>>>>> restore, and it offered to restore to Ios9.1, I believe it was.
>>>>> I didn't do it, of course, because as far as i know apple isn't
>>>>> signing that version anymore, so I think restoring to it would brick
>>>>> my ipod worse than it already is.
>>>>> Why would a DFU mode restore offer a firmware Apple isn't signing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/21/16, Cheryl LeFurgey <clefur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Alan,
>>>>>> Yeah, it is super weird that one device works while the other doesn't.
>>>>>> Also, yay, someone else who thinks the way I do about xp. It suits my
>>>>>> needs, I'll upgrade when my desktop dies.
>>>>>> All I use itunes for is putting music on my devices, so because one of
>>>>>> my devices works I can see no real reason to upgrade. If neither
>>>>>> device synced that'd be different.
>>>>>> Thanks for the good luck, I hope I can get this working, ugh.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/21/16, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Cheryl,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I agree with you one hundred percent and I still use my Windows XP
>>>>>>> box
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> run older programs that I had no interest in acquiring versions
>>>>>>> compatible
>>>>>>> with Windows 7. I've always believed that you should run the
>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>> system that you know and that runs the programs you need to get your
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> done. Windows XP still does an awful lot of that for me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's great that your iPhone running iOS 9.x is still working with
>>>>>>> iTunes
>>>>>>> 11.4 but it is a bit curious based on what I've also read. Your iPod
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> acting more as I would expect but the inconsistency of the two
>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> baffling.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good luck managing the inconsistency and I'll keep my fingers crossed
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> your iPhone and iTunes keep on working.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Cheryl LeFurgey
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:39 PM
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Weird itunes mystery.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Everything I've googled does support the idea that ITunes 12.x is
>>>>>>> required,
>>>>>>> that's why the fact that my phone will sync is such a mystery. Not
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> i'm
>>>>>>> complaining, of course!
>>>>>>> I can connect my phone, it pops up in my sources list, and I can add
>>>>>>> music
>>>>>>> to it, which is all i use itunes for.
>>>>>>> Yeah, if I do call, the people at apple will probably hear the words
>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>> xp and start laughing. Well no, but everyone else says xp is
>>>>>>> outdated,
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> secure, bla bla bla. It works just fine here, I have no issues, I'll
>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>> when I'm good and ready.
>>>>>>> Hopefully I can get this resolved, it's kind of annoying to have an
>>>>>>> ipod
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> not be able to play music on it. I mean sure I could copy my library
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> dropbox and use that app to play music, but that kind of defeats the
>>>>>>> purpose, IMO.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/20/16, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Cheryl,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wish I had an answer for you but I was under the impression that
>>>>>>>> those running iOS 9.x had to run iTunes 12.x to get correct iTunes
>>>>>>>> behavior with their iDevices for things like syncing and backing up.
>>>>>>>> Since you were getting your iTunes 11.4 to sync okay before this
>>>>>>>> problem arose, I guess something about my information was incorrect.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> too have a desktop system running Windows XP but I'm transitioning
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> another desktop system running Windows 7 which is the one on which I
>>>>>>>> run iTunes. I ran iTunes 11.4 on my Windows 7 system until day
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> yesterday when I upgraded it to version
>>>>>>>> 12.4 since I was finally ready to upgrade to iOS 9.x and believed
>>>>>>>> iTunes 12.x was required to get correct functionality between iTunes
>>>>>>>> and a device running iOS 9.x.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As Richard suggested, maybe Apple Accessibility will be able to help
>>>>>>>> but I suspect they're going to start that upgrade your iTunes
>>>>>>>> rallying
>>>>>>>> cry when they learn you're running iTunes 11.4.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I hope you're able to resolve your issue.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:08 AM
>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Weird itunes mystery.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not to sound like a broken record, but have you called Apple
>>>>>>>> Accessibility?
>>>>>>>> 877-204-3930?
>>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can
>>>>>>>> be pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.
>>>>>>>> Elizabeth Taylor (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Cheryl LeFurgey <clefur...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi, everyone.
>>>>>>>>> First, before I get into what's going on, let me say that i'm using
>>>>>>>>> an ipod touch fifth gen, and that my computer is running windows xp
>>>>>>>>> and Itunes 11.4.
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know, my OS is ancient, please don't tell me that.
>>>>>>>>> Now, on to the mystery.
>>>>>>>>> About a month ago, I downloaded an AudioBoom update, didn't like
>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>> and tried to go back to the previous version.
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I didn't have the right version on my computer, so I
>>>>>>>>> restored my ipod from an icloud backup in order to get my previous
>>>>>>>>> app back.
>>>>>>>>> The restore worked, eventually. The first few times it kept saying
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> couldn't copy some of my apps because they weren't available, but I
>>>>>>>>> was eventually able to complete a restore.
>>>>>>>>> I import all of my music from cds, using itunes to sync it to my
>>>>>>>>> ipod.
>>>>>>>>> Because of the restore, my music wasn't coppied over.
>>>>>>>>> So I tried to sync my ipod to get my music back, only to be told
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> my ipod couldn't be used because it required a newer version of
>>>>>>>>> itunes.
>>>>>>>>> Now, for the mystery. My iphone 5, which is running the exact same
>>>>>>>>> version of IOS as my ipod (when this started it was 9.3.1, and
>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>> happens with 9.3.2), will sync just fine.
>>>>>>>>> i've tried everything I can think of to get this working, with no
>>>>>>>>> success. I even downloaded the IPSW file for IOS9.3.1, put my ipod
>>>>>>>>> into recovery mode and restored with that, no luck.
>>>>>>>>> Now, there is a newer version of itunes that'll work on xp, but I
>>>>>>>>> don't like itunes 12, and because my phone will still sync fine,
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> no real reason to update.
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone had this kind of thing happen to them? If so, what can I
>>>>>>>>> do to get my music back onto my ipod? I've even tried various wifi
>>>>>>>>> file sharing apps, but they all just keep the files inside
>>>>>>>>> themselves, since apple won't allow us to copy music to the ipod's
>>>>>>>>> internal library without itunes.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, this is super frustrating.
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