Well, I'd like a bike app to do more than count steps or whatever; I'd like it 
to offer scenario-related occupation;  it has been 
done decades ago before such phones and bluetooth were ever invented.
E.g:  someone made a rowing machine hooked to a interactive video player which 
had a 3d representation of a river, and it would show 
on the screen at your feet, and you could row all around this virtual 
environment. There's more than enough plausible options of 
this nature we could use, if someone made it.
Kapsys and Trekker both made a map exploration facility,  so giving the static 
cyclist plenty to do exploring said map.  Key in a 
post/zip code, and take it from there.

BobH.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cristóbal" <crismuno...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:56 PM
Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like 
washers and dryers


I could write the same post, but with exersize equipment. I.E. Elliptical, 
rower, stationary bike, etc.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like 
washers and dryers



Hi List,



The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an 
apparently quite accessible app made me think again about 
other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 
years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing 
off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have 
made it to market. Yes, there are things like the 
Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now 
several other devices like connected thermostats and 
other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about 
washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am 
totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I 
am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a 
really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects 
to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the 
washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so 
the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS 
app are basically “It doesn’t work”.



I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I 
just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher 
and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked 
at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 
series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy 
the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales 
person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it 
totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to 
keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it 
would be possible to mark the spots where I would have 
to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually 
have to put my ear within a foot or two of the 
dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s 
totally amazing.



I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 
6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has 
some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the 
line models and nobody here sells the high-end 
german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated by 
a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end 
Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible as it 
turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can 
feel or mark and as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle 
you have selected.On the Bosch washing machine the 
dial does have a tactile line and one could write down the list of 
cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen or 15) and then 
start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter clockwise and count 
the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far 
have touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times 
to get to the setting you want.



Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or 
is accessible in other ways? I know you would have 
to have bought something in the last several months since models usually change 
each year so if there was an accessible model 3 or 4 
years ago chances are that model doesn’t exist any more. At least they should 
make these things talk which probably wouldn’t be very 
difficult given today’s technology.





Regards,

Sieghard



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