I have a cat and don't know what you're talking about. Why are we just going to know what body rott is supposed to mean if 1. The majority of us probably don't have a car to begin with and 2. Wont' necessarily equate this ambiguous term for rust on a car when we're talking about appliances? And yes, we own a car and arent' familiar with this term. How about plain simple English without the vernacular that may require an urban dictionary.
-----Original Message----- From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well:- Bosch would be manufacturer of choice to replace ailing appliances. Someone commented about the balance between price and quality. Body rot is rust, ask any car owner. Bet another cat owner would see the connection. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:52 PM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi Rob, Sorry to get back with this, but I have no idea what you are saying: Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. What this thing about an "errant cat" and "body rot"? Is this british umour I don't understand? What is Bosch targeted for? Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. Bosch appliances seem to be high profile, so those are current target. We don't get brands from continental US. BobH. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:40 AM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might just do fine. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing. I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen or 15) and then start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get to the setting you want. Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or is accessible in other ways? 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