I rather liked the way Bob expressed himself and I think we all use some sort of vanacular.
Vive la difference! Sandy (Whose BotVac app is playing up a little, sniff) sent from the dark side of the moon > On 13 Jun 2016, at 18:00, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have a cat and don't know what you're talking about. Why are we just going > to know what body rott is supposed to mean if 1. The majority of us probably > don't have a car to begin with and 2. Wont' necessarily equate this ambiguous > term for rust on a car when we're talking about appliances? And yes, we own a > car and arent' familiar with this term. > How about plain simple English without the vernacular that may require an > urban dictionary. > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Well:- > > Bosch would be manufacturer of choice to replace ailing appliances. Someone > commented about the balance between price and quality. > > Body rot is rust, ask any car owner. > > Bet another cat owner would see the connection. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:52 PM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > > Hi Rob, > > Sorry to get back with this, but I have no idea what you are saying: > > Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both > need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these > chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with > British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. > > What this thing about an "errant cat" and "body rot"? Is this british umour I > don't understand? > What is Bosch targeted for? > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both > need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these > chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with > British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. > > Bosch appliances seem to be high profile, so those are current target. > We don't get brands from continental US. > > BobH. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:40 AM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > > Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still > work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very > simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well > as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and > even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our > washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung > and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that > officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years > of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says > comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like > Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end > german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same > quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would > want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to > pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or > upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying > something that is half the price might just do fine. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Pinky > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Hey Sieghard, > You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. > Ed > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like > washers and dryers > > Hi List, > > The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an > apparently quite accessible app made me think again about > other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 > years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing > off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have > made it to market. Yes, there are things like the > Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are > now several other devices like connected thermostats and > other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what > about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am > totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and > I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a > really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects > to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the > washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree > so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS > app are basically “It doesn’t work”. > > I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I > just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher > and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked > at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 > series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy > the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales > person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it > totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to > keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it > would be possible to mark the spots where I would have > to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually > have to put my ear within a foot or two of the > dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s > totally amazing. > > I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of > 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has > some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of > the line models and nobody here sells the high-end > german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated > by a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end > Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible as it > turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can > feel or mark and as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle > you have selected.On the Bosch washing machine the > dial does have a tactile line and one could write down the list of > cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen or 15) and then > start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter clockwise and > count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far > have touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times > to get to the setting you want. > > Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks > or is accessible in other ways? I know you would have > to have bought something in the last several months since models usually > change each year so if there was an accessible model 3 or 4 > years ago chances are that model doesn’t exist any more. 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