Four years worth of upgrades for a phone is pretty good in my opinion, given 
that even with Nexus devices, you're only guaranteed to upgrades. And  many 
other android devices  don't give you that many.
Mary


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> On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:51 AM, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Missing from this discussion is that Apple stops providing upgrade
> ability to iPhones after five years.  The SE is based on 2015
> technology and likely cannot accept the new iOS in 2020.  The iPhone 7
> will likely not be able to receive a new iOS in 2021, based on past
> Apple practice.  For example, the 4s will not be able to accept iOS 10
> that will be out later this year.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On 8/26/16, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I just wonder what Apple's long term plans are. Are they going to
>> eventually sync the SE up with the rest of the IOS products or are they
>> going to continue to have multiple hardware releases in the year? I can
>> see where a spring release might take some of the thunder away from the
>> other smart phone manufacturers who line their product releases up with
>> the show in Barcelona, but I also know that operating system development
>> is more complicated when you have to support different hardware schedules.
>> 
>>> On 26/08/16 22:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Some people may be mad, but as Christopher said, it's up to everybody to
>>> do their research. There will also be a lot of users who are not super
>>> technical users who couldn't care less if a new smaller form factor phone
>>> were released. They may hear about it in a news article from a major news
>>> outlet, but the fact is that a large majority of people are users who do
>>> not necessarily follow each Apple Event. Anyhow, when it comes down to it
>>> Apple couldn't care less if they made 10% of their user base mad, after
>>> all, they did this with the iPad a few years ago. Also, for whatever it's
>>> worth, I don't think they are going to release a new 4 inch phone in
>>> September, at this point there would be many more rumours and some of
>>> which from sources who in the past have been very credible and there are
>>> no such rumours.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>> 
>>> Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other
>>> phones last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, when the
>>> phone was released, there was a major back up, so people waited weeks
>>> before getting their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple phone
>>> releases, and they admitted that they underestimated the demand for this
>>> particular phone. So, you have a case where people just purchased phone
>>> maybe in June or July, and here we are in September almost, traditional
>>> iPhone release time. If Apple releases a new SE now in sync with all of
>>> its other phone releases, I think the folks who purchased their phones
>>> recently are going to be upset. You know, Apple, why didn't you release
>>> this phone last fall with all of the others? Why did you wait over half a
>>> year, then release the phone, and right on top of it, release another one?
>>> That's why I figure people would not be happy.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an
>>>> upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came out?
>>>> Are you talking about the same people who get mad when something goes on
>>>> sale after they paid full price for it? I never got this reasoning since
>>>> this would mean the only way to make everyone happy is to never put
>>>> something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows Apple knows they release
>>>> new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone who bought an SE would know
>>>> that there would be a chance Apple might include a smaller form factor
>>>> phone in this fall's line up. I don't think Apple would ever promise not
>>>> to refresh a phone model any more frequently than once a year. I also
>>>> don't see what anyone who has an SE would be missing out on if Apple
>>>> upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>>> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I
>>>>> can't imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of
>>>>> people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they
>>>>> do. Not that making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in
>>>>> the past. Smile.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than
>>>>>> likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do,
>>>>>> not sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs,
>>>>>> so if you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good
>>>>>> choice, should be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Hello Christine,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to
>>>>>>> say, you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of
>>>>>>> iPhone 7, I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released
>>>>>>> before using your upgrade privileges.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward
>>>>>>> an iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally
>>>>>>> victimized by a car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my
>>>>>>> upgrade for an SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7
>>>>>>> comes out. I don’t want the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather
>>>>>>> quick succession, so I am trying to figure out whether to just get the
>>>>>>> SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7.
>>>>>>> From what I’m able to gather, the main features of interest involve
>>>>>>> improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any
>>>>>>> amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the
>>>>>>> ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my
>>>>>>> upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth
>>>>>>> wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>>> Christine
>>>>>> 
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