Well, given the fact that there are apparently plenty of people on these lists who don't think the voices are problem, maybe Apple isn't hearing a lot from people who do think they are problem. And maybe they don't know. After all, the number of people who use these voices, compared to the number of overall customers, is exceedingly small. So raise your voice. I know I have requested that they open up their system to the point where we can use other voices that they don't provide. And that hasn't gotten me anywhere.
Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry, I was just assuming Apple was paying some royalties to Nuance to use > their voices, so just like any other customer, they'd have the right to raise > the issue with their supplier. I also assume Nuance gets quite a bit of > mileage out of having their voices on such a popular device, so again, I'd > think that would give Apple some influence with Nuance. Apple could also go > to another company if they didn't think Nuance was providing the quality they > expect from their suppliers and want to include in their devices. If Apple > includes substandard parts in their devices then yes I think they have some > responsibility for that decision. > > You're right though, I can't prove anything, and I don't know the details of > Apple's deal with Nuance, so I was wrong for bringing it up. > >> On 15/09/16 21:22, Mary Otten wrote: >> Unless you know that Apple has input into this whole deal, or you can prove >> that the exact same voices are used elsewhere and don't have this problem, I >> don't think you can blame Apple for the crappy voices. Where Apple could >> improve would be either to insist that nuance up their game, which would be >> nice. And they could, spoken from a non-programming point of you of course, >> open it up, so that we can use voice is obtained through other sources, such >> as voice dream reader. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> You're right, but Apple chooses to use and upgrade these voices, and I'm >>> sure they also have some influence with Nuance, so I think it's fair to let >>> Apple share some of the responsibility. >>> >>> >>>> On 15/09/16 14:22, Devin Prater wrote: >>>> Apple gets these voices from Neuance. When an update comes out, Apple >>>> updates the voices, so it isn't really Apple's fault. I do know what you >>>> mean about Samantha. I use Alex, or Fred. >>>> >>>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Chantal Oakes <chantaloa...@shaw.ca >>>> <mailto:chantaloa...@shaw.ca>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Dan, I echo what you are saying. The quality of voices are >>>> very poor with this new update. One often wonders why they touch >>>> what isn't broken. The voices were not bad before they should just >>>> have left it alone. Just my opinion. >>>> >>>> Chantal Oakes >>>> >>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:29 AM, Dan <dbeaver...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am using a Iphone 6. I am running the new IOS 10. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality >>>>> voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them. 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