Well, thanks for correcting me on that, we'll just wait and see when, but not if, the new Apple TV will arrive. > On 5 Nov 2016, at 17:46, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Christopher, > > "Can't be" is an impossible statement. I can tell you with 100% certainty > that Apple is indeed working on a new Apple TV and they probably were working > on it before the 4th Generation Apple TV was even released just as they have > teams which are probably already working on the 2018 iPhone. In large > corporations like that where so much is at stake it is not like they say "OK, > now the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus are released, let's all take a few weeks off and > then we'll start brain storming what we should do next year". > However, whether a new Apple TV will be released next year or in 2018 is > anybody's guess and just because the rumourmill in cyberspace hasn't started > cranking out guesses as to what it will be doesn't mean there won't be one. > Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the current model is > capable of 4K streaming and just as certain as I know they are working on a > new version I can tell you that said new version will support 4K, a lot of > people were disappointed that the 4th Gen didn't since the iPhones which were > released at the same time (the 6S and 6S Plus) can record video in 4K. I > think this was very much a marketing decision by Apple, the current version > could have easily been capable of streaming 4K content, but Apple probably > thought after not having released a new Apple TV for so long and with the new > app store, the new TVOS and SIRI they could get away with it and benefit from > a few million people who have bought the 4th Generation Apple TV also buying > the 5th Generation when it comes out with 4K support. > I know you are quite an Apple fan boy and I am somewhat guilty of that myself > at least when it comes to iPhones, the Apple TV and, recently, my new Apple > Watch series 2, but I still look at the larger picture and that picture tells > me that Apple is no different when it comes to making profits, they are just > as greedy as everybody else and have no scruples to squeeze the consumer for > as many Dollars, Pounds, Euros or whatever other currency as possible while > at the same time trying to avoid paying taxes as much as possible. In fact I > would go as far as to say that some other companies and current or former > CEO's such as Bill Gates are a lot more philanthropic as Steve Jobbs ever was. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > christopher hallsworth > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 12:16 PM > To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv > > Can't be. I've not seen anything to support Apple working on a new Apple TV. > I do use blogs like IDB, but totally rely on Apple's words in order to > believe it. Until then, I believe it when i see it. >> On 4 Nov 2016, at 09:43, billy inglis <william.ingli...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> hi Sieghard and all, I have been told a new apple tv will be on the >> market next year sometime. Is this right?, Billy >> >> On 04/11/2016 08:33, Fanus wrote: >>> Hello Kliphton and Sieghard >>> Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall >>> investigate what is available in South Africa. >>> Regards >>> Fanus >>> >>> >>> From: Kliphton Miller >>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv >>> >>> Well, it does more than stream music an movies. You can log in to most >>> channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or >>> direct. Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to >>> share there info with you. The appleTV also has some games to be played on >>> it. My favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie >>> collection to my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac >>> on for Plex or some other third party. And the best part about it, I don’t >>> have to convert my movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse >>> will stream them. The most important thing for most of us, is we don’t >>> need sited help to control the appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the >>> screen so we can control HBO, netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are >>> using, including the network TV apps at that have on demand content. >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Sieghard and list >>> Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain >>> the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music >>> and movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. >>> can one hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.? >>> I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who >>> wants to access the tv. >>> Regards >>> Fanus >>> >>> >>> From: Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions >>> >>> Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and >>> user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for >>> easier typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV >>> completely with a bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if >>> there is a way to invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Terri Stimmel >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions >>> >>> Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I >>> really appreciate it. >>> >>> >>> I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it. >>> But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome! >>> >>> >>> My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in >>> time, telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover >>> on, I took it over. >>> >>> I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very >>> difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little >>> clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL! >>> >>> The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the >>> new set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such. >>> >>> >>> Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, >>> and connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held >>> it near the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set >>> up was flawless. >>> >>> >>> I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not >>> sure what to do. >>> >>> >>> How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there? >>> >>> Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to >>> download them on to the Apple TV? >>> >>> I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I >>> don't know where to look. >>> >>> >>> Also, if I want other free or subscription-based apps for movies, or >>> tv shows, how do I go about finding such stuff? >>> >>> Unfortunately, I don't know many apps, and I honestly don't know how >>> to search for such things. >>> >>> I'd like to find apps that are pretty accessible. But I'd try some >>> apps just to check them out as well, if I knew how to find them. >>> >>> >>> Also, how do you know which news apps give broadcasts of stories, >>> and not just articles? >>> >>> I know NPR has a news app. >>> >>> >>> Any help with any of this would be much appreciated. I'm going to >>> mess around with the Apple tv more, tomorrow. I am definitely happy >>> I bought it. I can't believe now that I was so intimidated by it. >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> >>> Terri >>> >>> >>> On 11/2/2016 9:42 AM, Daniel L. Gervais wrote: >>>> Hi Terri, >>>> >>>> I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same >>>> one and I love it. >>>> >>>> As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, >>>> you have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons. From the top right going >>>> down, you have the Home button and below that is the Volume Up and Down >>>> rocker. >>>> >>>> To enable VoiceOver, simply press the Play/Pause button three times and >>>> after a few tries, VoiceOver should begin speaking. >>>> >>>> When inputting text, the keyboard is layed out a little diffrently with >>>> the first row being the letters A to Z and the next row below being the >>>> numbers and punctuation symbols. Below that row is buttons to toggle >>>> between lowercase and uppercase letters, but if you press the Play/Pause >>>> button, this will do the same. >>>> >>>> You can also use Siri to dictate anything in an edit field, this also >>>> includes passwords. Simply press and hold the Siri button and dictate. >>>> When you're done, let go of the button and your text will be inputted. >>>> >>>> While on the Home screen, you can even ask Siri, by pressing and holding >>>> while you talk and letting go when your done. >>>> >>>> You can always check on www.applevis.com for How To's on using the Apple >>>> TV. I believe that David Woodbridge has quite a few podcasts on doing >>>> just about anything on the Apple TV. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> > To: >>> "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Date: >>> 2016/11/02 10:12 AM > Subject: Got my new Apple TV, need a bit of >>> help! >>>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, I broke down and purchased my new Apple tv last night. I got >>> the > 32 gig model. I didn't mess with it last night though, because >>> I just > wasn't feeling the best. >>>> >>>> >>>> It's all open, and all hooked up now. It is a little chunkier, and >>>> bigger. But I think I like that. I do like the remote much better, >>>> because it too seems thicker, and maybe not as easy to lose. I lost >>> one > once. LOL! >>>> >>>> >>>> Now here is where I need some help please. >>>> >>>> When I go to the input where the Apple tv is, nothing seems to happen. >>>> On my older model, it asked about Voiceover. >>>> >>>> >>>> So first of all, can someone kindly explain the layout of the >>> buttons to > me, and what they are? >>>> >>>> This would really be very helpful. I found the area for the gestures. >>>> >>>> >>>> Now how can I get voiceover on? >>>> >>>> Will I need sighted assistence for this? >>>> >>>> I pushed a couple of buttons just to see what would happen. I >>> don't know > if anything happened on the screen. But I heard some cute >>> little noises. >>>> LOL! >>>> >>>> I decided to quit messing with it though, because I didn't want to >>> mess > anything up. >>>> >>>> >>>> Any help would be very much appreciated. Now I am kind of getting >>>> excited about this thing. 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