Maps or other GPS programs are a good example. If you read the article Aleeha posted you would think there is no need to close them, the author does not mention that GPS apps maybe do things if they are in the app switcher even if there is no active route going etc. Also, the articl Ed posted specifically mentioned that Facebook even if background app refresh is turned off still uses CPU time and hence battery power if it is in the app switcher. As I said, despite articles like the one Aleeha posted and the others which are out there and which make the argument not to do this you can find just as many from credible sources which say the opposite and I amsimply a believer in the fact that apps which are removed from the app switcher do the least amount of harm.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaf Patel Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 6:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm A suggestion on keeping apps open in the background: If you really want to do so and don't care about background app refresh, turn it off. It'll save a ton of battery. Low Power Mode is also great, you'll still receive your push notifications and calls. On 11/23/2016 2:37 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote: > Anything that uses GPS or the camera will usually use more battery > power than other apps. There are also the exceptions, like Facebook > and perhaps that Rogers app, which also use a lot of battery power. I > regularly tell students to close the GPS and camera apps when they are > done using them. When I gave my older iPhone to my wife several years > ago, she thought that just because she went to the home screen, the > phone would automatically take care of her apps. She was telling me > that she started at a full charge early in the morning, and by 10am, > her battery was down to 10 percent. I looked at her phone and saw that > she had around 40 apps in the App Switcher; no wonder her battery was > dropping faster than the stock market. Things are better today since > we both have the iPhone 7, and these newer phones manage apps and > processes much better. Still, I try to restart my phone at least once > a week and keepa close watch on how many apps are in the App > Switcher. In doing these things, my battery generally lasts between 13 > and 16 hours a day before I need to charge. For full disclosure, I use > to have the Apple smart Battery Case for my 6S and that was awesome. > However, with the 7, you get an extra 1-2 hours of battery life and > the phone is a lot better about managing things, that I really don't > need one anymore. > > Wayne > > On 11/23/16, Pablo Cesar Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I have noticed that when I use apps like google maps, or maps, even >> after arriving to my destination, if I keep the app in the >> background, the battery is consumed quickly. More over some apps when >> they are not running in the background, are not using resources like >> Bluetooth or notifications, so closing these apps also helps. >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Mr. Ed >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:36 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm >> >> >> >> I find this hard to believe that closing an app in the app switcher >> is going to create problems. I will have to hear this from a good >> reliable source before I believe this. I think closing an app is >> just like closing it on the pc. It has no effect. In fact it might >> run better as it clear all the junk out and the app a lot of times >> works better after closing it in the app switcher and reopening it. >> This is what you said, “please, please, please read this article, closing >> your apps is a very, very unhelpful thing to do.” >> Now you need to go back an read the article on the link you posted. >> It said closing an app does not help battery life. I did not see >> where it said anything about closing an app could be harmful. >> >> Please correct me if I am wrong. >> >> Mr. Ed >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 7:05 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Just a couple of things here. First, is that screen curtain on its >> own will not help your battery. You must turn the brightness down to help in >> any way. >> Second, charging at higher levels does not affect your battery like >> it used to be rumored to. Third, and please, please, please read this >> article, closing your apps is a very, very unhelpful thing to do. It >> will not save battery and is not recommended (except for that one >> nasty time when Roger decided to eat your battery like a picnic >> lunch). Read this article and be informed. >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.wired.com/2016/03/closing-apps-save-battery-makes-things- >> worse/ >> >> Essentially, closing an app tells your device that something’s wrong, >> forcing it to try to find another way to do things. After closing >> apps a lot, your phone can become unstable and begin behaving oddly, >> causing the necessity to restart or even restore the device. >> >> HTH, >> >> Aleeha >> >> On Nov 22, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Tony <t...@k5twz.com >> <mailto:t...@k5twz.com> > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> From what I have read and experienced with lithium batteries charging >> habits don't have much effect on them. Depending on brand and the >> care in manufacturing most batteries can be nearly completely >> discharged and then fully recharged from 300 to 1000 times. >> Warranties are usually calculated at about 300 times but I have seen some as >> low as 100 cycles. >> >> The life of a battery is not based on the number of times you charge >> it but on the total amount of current you use out of the battery. >> Any time you have a charger plugged in the battery's life is not >> being shortened because nearly all of the power used is provided by >> the charger and not by the battery. >> >> The only reason for frequently charging a battery is in case you may >> run it down before you are able to recharge it again. >> >> Batteries, and the equipment they are used in, have been developed to >> the point they pretty much protect themselves from over charging and >> over heating. They will quit working rather than become damaged. >> While other types of batteries could become hot enough to blister >> your sking or leak some unpleasant chemical, lithium batteries can fail by >> catching on fire. >> That is why so much effort and money has been invested in battery safety. >> Considering how many billions have been made, and how much users >> demand they be more powerful, the number of serious battery failures >> is continuing to decrease. >> >> Tony >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 5:04 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: RE: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm >> >> Hi Terri, >> >> According to Popular Mechanics and Battery University, charging >> patterns have little to no effect on battery life in today's modern >> phones (they used to with other types of batteries), so no, when you >> decide to charge has no effect on how long your battery will last. >> >> As for things you can do to make the battery go longer between >> charges, you can turn off the display (or actually I mean turn down >> the brightness of the display). Turn off automatic brightness, the >> manually set the display to a very low brightness level. This means >> you will manually have to turn it back up if you want to show a >> sighted person something. Using the Voice Over curtain feature is not the >> same, and does not save any battery. >> >> As for the phone getting warm, I think this is just lack of cooling >> air circulating around it; especially as you describe it slipping >> down in the chair, but the bed is also a good insulator, even on one >> side. If it's plugged in when you feel it getting warm, I'd say this is >> normal. >> >> Sometimes my phone gets warm even when not plugged in, but that's >> when I'm using it a lot by talking or otherwise causing it to >> transmit (typing in texts, emails, other transmissions). >> >> I would think you could still by a battery case for your phone, >> certainly you can just buy an external battery to plug it into for charging. >> >> >> Hth, >> >> Chip >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 1:29 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> I have a few questions here. I am hoping someone can give me some >> thoughts, or advice. >> >> >> First of all, my phone is up to date. I have the 5S. I can upgrade by >> February, but I don't know if I will. I am paying for this phone monthly. >> >> >> Anyway, I have been noticing that sometimes my batter runs down faster. >> I am on my phone quite a lot some days, more than other days. Not >> always making calls, but checking out Facebook, and maybe commenting >> on posts, or making posts. Checking my email, or maybe writing some emails. >> Playing Farkle. Maybe reading a news story, and definitely texting! >> That's certainly the biggest thing. I do this all over WIFI. >> >> Every once in a while, I may play a video of some sort. But I use my >> Ipad for most of this. >> >> >> I don't know what causes more battery useage than other things. I am >> getting better at closing Apps if I am not using them. >> >> >> My biggest problem, is that I don't let my phone die, or completely >> run down, before charging it. I have heard this can be a bad thing. I >> will usually let it get to 40 percent, and then charge it. Sometimes >> 20 percent, if I am still wanting to finish up something quickly. >> >> >> So, are there things I could possibly change, to help save battery life? >> >> How low should my battery life really get, before charging my phone? >> >> I do not care for the low power mode. So I choose not to use it. >> >> >> Also, are there affordable battery packs, or anything like that, >> still available for the 5S? >> >> >> Now to my next question, and something that is concerning me more. >> >> >> About 3 times so far, in the last week, I have found that my phone >> gets pretty warm. I don't know why this is happening, or what could >> be causing it. >> >> >> Once it happened when my phone was laying on my bed. I don't always >> keep it on my bed. Just sometimes. >> >> Another time it happened when I was sitting in my rocker-recliner. >> The phone always ends up sliding down, between the arm of the chair, >> and the seat. It's never been an issue before. >> >> It has also happened while sitting on my desk. I do not keep it near >> my laptop. 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