Sarah, I suspect you may be stuck, but I have a good friend who is a lawyer. I’ve sent him a description of the situation with no names. Write me off list at richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> So we can take this off list and I’ll send you my friends reply privately.
Richard From: 'Sarah Sans' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting people I'm in Australia and I don't know how I'd go about taking somebody to small claims court who lives in the US -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting people Local Time: November 26, 2016 5:47 PM UTC Time: November 26, 2016 5:47 PM From: siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> Hi Shaf, Strictly speaking what you and Sarah describe would be fraud, a thief is somebody who steels something by breaking into your house or maybe from a store during opening hours. Anyhow, in a way it is symantics. I don't fault you and Sarah from being angry, but I still say that the 2,000 people on this list which deals with the iPhone, iOS, apps and accessories want to continuously come across posts where every time Eden posts something you call her out by calling her a thief, crook or whatever. If somebody has the moderators permission to advertise an item for sale and you see Eden replying you can always send that person a direct message to warn them, but while I am sorry for you having been defrauded it should not be a continuous issue on this or other lists. I'll leave it at this and won't comment further. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaf Patel Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 9:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting people Well, she is a thief. Face the facts. Glad somebody else decided to call her out on her deception. On 11/26/2016 5:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > > > $3,500 is a pretty good chunk of money. I am not at all disputing what > you are saying but for such a large amount why not go to smallclaims > court? Also, you at least don’t call her names and openly attack her > on the list, you provide an account of what happened which supports > Shaf, but beyond this it is not list related and calling somebody > “thief” and worse is just not for this list even if it is true and it > needs to be dealt with in other ways. Even if somebody pays in > installments I guess it is better not to deliver the product until it > is paid for in full. I own a retail store and we do Layaways but of > course people don’t get to take the product until the last payment has been > made. > > > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > > > *From:*'Sarah Sans' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:38 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting > people > > > > Hi list, > > I was reading a thread where somebody else said that they were scammed > by an individual named Eden Kizer. I was one of those individuals who > was scammed by her. > > Just over a year ago I advertised a BrailleNote braille display on > Blindbargains, and was contacted by somebody named Eden Kizer asking > too purchase it from me. I was selling it for $4000 and she said she > couldn't afford to pay for it all at once. She asked me if she could > pay monthly installments of $500 and, since I really wanted to sell it > and thought she would honor her word, I took the first payment of $500 > and sent her the BrailleNote. The BrailleNote was in excellent > condition, had no scratches or dents, had an excellent battery and > came with all the accessories including the carrying case. > > I have yet to receive the rest of the payment for the BrailleNote (she > owes me $3500). I have previously attempted to call her about it, and > rather than talking about why she wouldn't pay the rest of the money > she owes me she decided to change her phone number. She also ignores my > emails. > > > > I just want everybody to be aware of Eden's scams. I'm extremely upset > that she didn't pay me back in full for the BrailleNote I sold her and > hope she doesn't do the same to anybody else. I'd hate to know that > other people have also been scammed by her, although I'm sure she's > done the same to others. I was only trying to do her a favor by > accepting payment installments since I understand not everybody has > $4000 to pay all at once, but now I know not to do that anymore and > only accept a payment in full. > > > > Thanks for reading and I hope people think twice before falling for > these horrible scams. > > > > Sarah > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn > - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn > - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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