I suspect that Apple's very private Siri will improve a lot when they manage to 
put a lot of Siri's language recognition on a chip integrated into our iPhones. 
I do hear that work is underway on this. But tediously underperforming 
meanwhile!
Harry

> On 18 Jun 2017, at 18:51, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Some of the problems with Siri have to do with privacy, and apples insistence 
> on it, where as Google is quite the opposite. So there are some trade-offs 
> here. I do also wish that Siri would become better, but not at the expense of 
> my data going to any Tom Dick and Harry who wants to buy it from Google or 
> Google using it for their own purposes, which are all about advertising. We 
> need a happy medium here we're privacy is first, but robust AI is also 
> possible. I'm hoping that's what all these new hires will do for Apple
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> I know that they are reporting this just as they are reporting how Apple has 
>> and is hiring experts in autonomous/self-driving car technology. As far as 
>> SIRI goes, however, I want them to show that they are making some progress, 
>> it just seem sso ignorant that they are just not really improving SIRI but 
>> they of course know that is what everybody wants.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Kevin Chao
>> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New siri voices in IOS 11
>>  
>> Has already happend and will continue too...Apple has doubled-down on 
>> artificial intelligence/machine learning: they’ve acquired and continue to 
>> lots of talent in this domain.
>> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 9:59 PM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> Great idea, let’s tell Apple to fire SIRI and hire the Google Assistant away 
>> from Google, after all, it’s not the first time Apple hired away talent from 
>> Google or other companies.
>> .
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Kevin Chao
>> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 9:12 PM
>> 
>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New siri voices in IOS 11
>>  
>> I’m surprised to see so much attention devoted towards the more expressive 
>> Siri voices. I view it as a nice touch to the presnetaiton layer, but the 
>> structure and interaction, specifically with understanding, context, and 
>> meaningful intelligence has a lot to be desired. The only advantage Siri has 
>> is that it was first, but all other voice-based assistants are smarter, 
>> helpful, and useful. However, to be fair, even the best of the “Assistants” 
>> today would not last as a human Assistant in a job. We’ve been promised a 
>> bright future with the voice user interfaces, but a lot more resources and 
>> time needs to be realized before the “Year Million” is our reality.
>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:59 PM christopher hallsworth 
>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> No, just the public beta software program.
>> > On 14 Jun 2017, at 22:26, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Did you seriously pay money to sign up for a developer account? In two or 
>> > at the most 3 weeks you could get the first public beta for free.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> > Of christopher hallsworth
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:42 PM
>> > To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > Subject: Re: New siri voices in IOS 11
>> >
>> > And I'm not, *yet*. All I will say is, I have just signed up.
>> >> On 13 Jun 2017, at 18:11, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Ming.
>> >> Even if this is true people beta testing IOS 11 cannot discuss. I am not 
>> >> one of them that's why I'm replying.
>> >> Have a great day.
>> >> Jen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
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>> >>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:29 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone 
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>> >>> hi all!
>> >>> anyone know that in IOS 11 it has some new siri voices.
>> >>> does the voices also can work in voice over as well?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks!
>> >>> Ming
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