Hi Simon, There is no longer a tones library on the PC, tones are strictly managed through the Tones tab when you are in your device/phone area (see Mark’s message). I also found that adding tones is no problem even if you don’t check “Manually sync music and videos” on the Summary tab, but unless you check it you can’t delete any. Keep in mind that deleting a Tone in iTunes will not delete it out of the Tones folder in iTunes Media, if you want it back you just go there or to whatever folder you have your tone in, copy it with Control+C and then go to iTunes and the tones list and paste it.
Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7 - things missing? Importance: High problem is, that I need to remove some from the actual iTunes library on the PC, not from the phone. also, how do I add new ones that I have got on the PC now, if I can't get at the tones library on iTune? Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 2:27 AM Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7 - things missing? Simon, It is true that apps and ringtones have disappeared from the library section, but once you go to your device section the treeview which has “Summary” at the top is still there and here you still have your tones which you can sync or remove from your device etc. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7 - things missing? Importance: High ringtones are the point, as I tend to make my own, rather than fork out for them. in previous iTunes versions, when I opened them, it would go strait to my tones library. in this latest iTunes, I can't seem to get access to, or even find my tones library at all, so can't find a way of adding any new ones I have maid, and like I think I mentioned, I was going to tidy it up a bit, as it currently contains a number of items which are either too long for the iPhone, or which even though they are mentioned in the library, there are not actually files for. if I can't get access to that library however, I can't tidy it up, which is why this latest iTunes is being such a pane! Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 11:28 PM Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7 - things missing? Hi Simon, You can completely uninstall iTunes 12.7 and find a download for an older version or, depending on when you installed it, you could restore your computer to a restore point from before the update. However, Sadam is correct, if you have updated to iOS 11 it might be too late as I am not sure if they will work with previous iTunes versions. Here is a statement from an article about iTunes 12.7, I made this into a link so if you click on it the article will load: Additionally, iTunes 12.7 adds support for iOS 11 devices as well as new Apple Music features like social sharing.<https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/12/apple-releases-itunes-12-7-with-ios-11-support-simplified-content-types-more/> Having said all that, what exactly is it you miss in iTunes 12.7? I agree with Sadam in that iTunes is playing less and less of an important roll for iOS devices and as far as I am concerned that is a good thing. I still think iTunes will be around for a long time since it does serve a certain purpose both on the Mac and on PC’s, but when I did an encrypted backup before the update I noticed that the last time I did an iTunes backup which is probably also the last time I hooked my phone up to the computer was last March. For the most part I only connect my phone if I want to put a new ringtone I made onto the phone and I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple came up with a way to add ringtones maybe via iCloud Library and the Files app in the future hence further reducing the need for the iPhone to get connected. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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