If I did not already own an Echo, I would definitely go with the Sonos 1 and in fact I am still going for the Sonos 1. The sound quality is one very good reason and the airplay is another. And having it in every room where you have a Sonos speaker is exciting. I am looking forward to this and the sales person told me they are working seriously to get Audible books to play on the speakers. While you can listen to them on the Echo you have to be in the same room but if you have Sonos speakers in several rooms, you will hear the book in each of those rooms.
Marie

-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

Hi Wayne,

I think you are comparing Apple and Oranges if you compare an Echo Dot and the new Sonos 1. First of all, if you are in a country where Alexa isn't offered you still won't automatically get it by buying a Sonos 1. I guess here in Canada you can make Alexa work, but it's always been my opinion that if Amazon can't be bothered to make Alexa available officially then I'm not going to jump through all sorts of hoops to get it. As for the price comparison, the Sonos 1 especially if you buy a set and put them in stereo mode is a very different animal with respect to sound quality. Maybe you also have some sort of higher quality stereo or set of speakers or bluetooth speaker for enjoying music and this is really where the Sonos 1 comes in. Anyhow, if you want to put music through out your house Sonos is still one of the best options and as I said, you also get fully accessible access to things like Tune In, iHeart Radio, Spotify, Deezer, Sirius XM and many more, I believe Sonos supports 44 services in total both paid and free. If the Sonos 1 also has Airplay 2 built in it's very much a game-changer for iOS users since you only need one Airplay enabled device to allow your entire Sonos system to access it. For me this would mean I can take my Connect Amp and use it at my retail store and replace it with a Sonos 1 and I can also get rid of my setup where I use an Airport Express connected to the Connect Amp so I can Airplay to my Sonos system. If all you want is an inexpensive voice assistant speaker and you don't care too much about sound quality then the Echo Dot is certainly the way to go, but even if Amazon made the Echo available here in Canada I believe it's much better to buy a Sonos 1 instead because it will eventually give you access to both Alexa and Google Assistant. I wouldn't be surprised if Cortana follows soon as well and then you have 3 of the 4 major voice assistants in one device.
Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

I have an Echo Dot at home, but don't use Siri very much. I do use Siri, but not constantly like I know some do. So for me, I have the Hey Siri feature turned off. It's not ahuge deal since I can hold the Home button osummon Siri if I need to. For the Echo Dot, though it is always listening, that does not bother me too much. However, it does have a mute button to stop it from listening, so that's good. It really hasn't been triggered too much by thinking it has heard the magic word. A few times, but not a ton. I understand how the Sonos devices getting Alexa would be a game changer for those not in countries supported by Alexa. However, for me it comes down to price; I can get an Echo Dot for $49, verses the $199 that Sonos charge for their new device.

Wayne

On 10/5/17, deidre muccio <deim...@verizon.net> wrote:
I notice that Tune In Radio is now giving me a morning greeting and a
button that I must hit on to open the app. Otherwise it will not close
out since the app is not open. Facebook has been doing this too. It drives me crazy.
As far as listening goes, I unloaded the Facebook app so I could get
back to the place where I tell it not to allow access to the
microphone - I don't do any video on my phone. No data is lost this
way and it clears out other stuff not needed so if you look at storage
usage it shrinks after doing this.
I'm not concerned who sees or hears what I am up to, but having the
phone in use behind the scenes offends my sensibility. I also notice
that if I do leave my phone on through the night, even though it might
be near fully charged, and it is set to lock every minute, the battery
is still drained quite a bit by morning. What is using up the battery?
I think I noticed that some apps have remained open  so perhaps even
though the phone is locked particular apps don't really treat them as not in use.
I've started to shut my phone down at night, hell with needing easy
access to 911.
Also, I realize that magazines and facebook provide news and
platforms for free, if one chooses not to subscribe, but the onslaught
of ads is making some of these platforms nearly unusable. I've never
had so many ads popping up when on facebook as I have in the last 3 or
so months. I wish there was an alternative platform. Either that or
voice over is not able to keep up with the ads and I see no way to not load graphics on the phone.
Am I in the dark here?

Deidre

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