I am not saying there aren't certain tests where the Samsung comes out on top, but considering that the processor in the Samsung is an 8 core processor and if it does in fact have 6 Gb of RAM then it should totally smoke the iPhone, but more RAMand faster processors so far have had a difficult time in beating the optimizations Apple can do to make their software run efficiently on their hardware. Of course one could say Samsung should be able to also do this to some degree since it is their hardware and while Android is not their's, they have apparently customized it to a very large degree and there is even talk that soon enough Samsung phones will not even run Android any more, but Samsung's own OS although I suspect that whatever Samsung will do will run Android apps because if not they are most likely going to set them up for a huge belly flop since developers probably have enough on their plate developing for Android and iOS and we saw how successful Windows was when it came to the availibility of apps for their phones.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 12:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The best smartphones that still have a headphone jack I saw the results of one benchmark where the Samsung S8 out performed the iPhone 8. This was due to the fact that the S8 has 6G of RAM while the iPhone 8 has 2G. Processor speed isn't everything, and benchmarks don't always capture real world performance. This is true whether Samsung or the iPhone comes out on top. I suppose dropping the headphone jack is a trend, but I'm not sure it's a good one. There's no reason you can't use USB or bleutooth even if you still have a headphone jack. It's not like we're getting thinner, cheaper, more waterproof or more feature rich phones by losing the headphone jack. Seems to me like we're losing a ubiquitous open interface for no gain except that the cell phone manufacturers save a few cents on each device. On 10/05/2017 02:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > I wonder what is above "screaming fast" which is what they use to describe > the processor in the Galaxy and note 8. The A11 Bionic in the iPhone 8/8 > Plus/iPhone X totally leaves it in the dust in the benchmark tests and most > likely will in real-world tests since so far it always does. > When I read this morning that the new Google Pixel phones ditched the 3.5mm > headphone jack I did have to chuckle because while everybody always says > Apple lags behind in some ways they totally set the trends. I would not be > surprised if in the next year or two Samsung will also ditch the headphone > jack in favour of USB-C or whatever. > The one thing the iPhone is adopting late is OLED displays, but I wonder if > that is more because of supply constraints because maybe they felt that until > now they just couldn't get enough of them. Even now only the iPhone X will > have it and of course they won't sell as many of those as all the other new > models combined. Anyways, when you think of other technologies it's the > others who still follow after the iPhone, Apple really started the trend to > put a fast and reliable fingerprint sensor on the phone, now they again lead > with Face Id which I am sure Samsung and Google will try to get right in the > next year or two as well. I don't really consider what samsung has done so > far because it's more of a gimmick since it can be fooled into unlocking from > a picture of a person. > I did, by the way, have an LG candy bar style cell phone about 15 years ago > which came with it's own proprietary headset which plugged into the charge > port and that phone had no 3.5mm or, as was also common in those days, a > 2.5mm headset jack. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 11:16 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: The best smartphones that still have a headphone jack > > Hello Everyone, > > I am posting the following article because it includes Apple products. > > Enjoy, > > Mark > > The best smartphones that still have a headphone jack These are the best > phones that still have a headphone jack. > By TJ Donegan , Reviewed.com. > > These are the best phones that still have a headphone jack (Photo: > Reviewed.com) ' Our editors review and recommend products to help you buy the > stuff you need. If you make a purchase by clicking one of our links, we may > earn a small share of the revenue. However, our picks and opinions are > independent from USA TODAY's newsroom and any business incentives. It > shouldn't be this way, but it is: the headphone jack is going away. The old, > reliable 3.5mm port that has been on every electronics gadget for decades is > suddenly considered out of date. Though plenty of phones still have > headphones, more and more 'flagship' phones like the iPhone are starting to > ditch it, forcing consumers into one of three choices: buy wireless > headphones, use wired headphones that only plug into your phone's charging > port (and nothing else), or live with a dongle. But if you want to avoid > making this terrible choice a little bit longer, you're in luck: plenty of > phone makers are sticking by the headphone jack, and even going above and > beyond to deliver better sound quality through the simple, ubiquitous analog > port. Here are the best that we've used recently. Of course one of the best > smartphones we've ever tested has a headphone jack. (Photo: Reviewed.com / > Michael Desjardin) Samsung's premier'smartphones'the Galaxy S8 , S8+ , and > Note 8 'are some of the best that we've ever tested, featuring amazing > displays, screaming fast processors, and some of the best cameras we've ever > tested. Though the top-end Samsung phones all share their own questionable > design decisions'like placing the fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone > next to the camera'they all feature a headphone jack. If you want a phone > that can keep up with any other phone on the market and don't want to give up > your headphone jack, the Samsung Galaxy line is the place to start. > The original Google Pixel is an exceptional device. (Photo: > Reviewed.com / Michael Desjardin) No, not the new ones; the Pixel 2 > and Pixel 2 XL that were just announced this week do not feature > headphone jacks. But the original Pixel phones they are replacing are > still exceptional devices and they've got perfectly functional 3.5mm > headphone jacks. Beyond that the Pixels feature perfectly stock > Android with absolutely zero bloatware, cameras that are still > considered among the best in a smartphone, and an extremely fast > fingerprint sensor. And with the new phones hitting the market now, > the original Pixels should be dropping in price, to boot. The LG V30's > display is stunning, and it has a headphone jack! (Photo: LG) LG has > always resisted following the pack when it comes to designing its > flagship phones. Whether that's meant making a phone curved or simply > sticking with removable batteries longer than just about anyone else, > LG likes to play by its own rules. The new LG V30 is the company's > best phone to date. It looks and feels like a nicer Google Pixel, with > a display that covers nearly the entire front of the phone'no > unsightly iPhone X notch required'a rear-mounted fingerprint sensor > that is extremely fast, and'perhaps most importantly'a lovely 3.5mm > headphone jack. Best of all, the V30 even went so far as to include a > fancy "32-bit Advanced Hi-Fi Quad DAC"'(digital to analog converter) > with its headphone jack. What does that mean in plain English? The LG > V30 should make your headphones sound better than with other > smartphones, while also providing you the ability to customize the > sound to your liking. The iPhone 6S and 6s Plus have what newer models > lack'that coveted headphone jack. (Photo: Reviewed.com / Michael > Desjardin) Sure, Apple may have kicked off this terrible, terrible > trend of removing the headphone jack for reasons that don't make a > lick of sense. But that doesn't mean the company doesn't still make a > great phone. While the iPhone 6S and 6S Plus are hardly > state-of-the-art, they're still faster than many other phones on the > market and are the best iPhones that still have a headphone jack. And > since Apple hasn't gone out of its way to drastically alter the > iPhone's design in years'you know, other than to remove the headphone > jack'the 6S will hardly look out of date. These are our favorite > in-ear headphones for their rich sound and comfortable feel. (Photo: > Reviewed.com / TJ Donegan) Of course, the entire point of having a > phone with a headphone jack is that you can plug headphones into it. > If you're going to go out of your way to pick a phone because it has a > jack, you might as well take advantage of it. Our favorite wired > headphones for most smartphone users right now are, without question, > the 1More Triple Drivers . These are, simply put, the best earbuds > I've ever used under $100. They're light, durable, they come with a > huge array of tips to fit any size ear, and they sound phenomenal. I > use them nearly every day and I love them. If you prefer comfier > over-ear headphones, our top-rated headphones are the Audio-Technica > MSR7 , which can be found for under $200 online. They're stylish, > comfortable, and absolutely aced all of our sound quality tests. There's even > a version with noise cancellation for roughly $80 more . Lastly, for people > who actually like wireless headphones but prefer to not be forced to use > them, the Bose QuietComfort 35 are the best of both worlds. They sound > fantastic, they're stylish, they offer excellent noise cancellation when you > want it, and they can be used wirelessly or with a wire'it's up to you. If > only everything were so simple. Prices are accurate at the time of > publication, but may change over time. > > Original Article at: > https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/reviewedcom/2017/10/05/these-are-t > he-bes t-phones-that-still-have-a-headphone-jack/106321176/ > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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