I bought a Logitech K780 not that long ago, it does have a number pad, the 
inverted arrow T is clearly separated, but it does not have the 6-pack 
(Insert/Delete, Page Up/Down and Home/End).
Also, the function keys are all next to each other even though there would have 
been space to put in the gaps between F4 and F5 and F8 and F9, but I fixed this 
by putting a tactile dot on F4, F8 and F12.
To the right of F12 is a Cortana/search key when you use it as a Windows 
keyboard and the very last one on the right is Delete, if you press it with the 
FN key it's Printscreen.
I did have to download the logitech Options software to make it so the function 
keys in Windows were function keys if pressed by themselves, by default you had 
to press FN and the function keys for this, but it was easily fixed.
I otherwise really like that keyboard and it has now become my primary keyboard 
 to use with my laptop as well as my iPhone, F1, f2 and F3 can be programmed 
for 3 different devices.
If I use it with Windows and want to switch to my iPhone which is on F2, I have 
to press FN+F2 because otherwise F2 is just the function key, but if I'm using 
it with my iPhone and want to switch back to Windows then I can just press F1 
without the FN key because in iOS F1 has otherwise no meaning.
Of course the function keys pressed with FN are also used for things like 
turning the brightness up or down, turning the laptops Touchpad on and off, 
FN+F10 toggles Mute, FN+F11 is volume down and FN+F12 is volume up.
If I switch it to my iPhone pressing the spacebar wakes up the phone and I can 
then just quickly enter my unlock PIN on the number pad and the phone unlocks.
This keyboard also comes with a USB dongle so even if your computer didn't have 
bluetooth, youcould just plug in the dongle and use it that way and the dongle 
is conveniently stored in the battery compartment so it's always handy and hard 
to loose.
Lastly, this keyboard is not a mechanical keyboard (I actually have never seen 
a mechanical bluetooth keyboard) but it's very quiet and has a beautiful feel 
to it. It has the usual slider switch on the right for turning it on or off.
It is also very heavy because it has a groove all along the top above the 
function keys and you can stick in your iPhone there and it holds it up at a 
good viewing angle for sighted people and as the groove is open on each end you 
can even put a large iPad into this groove and since the keyboard is weighted 
it won't tip over.
With the exception of the function key gaps this is probably the nicest and 
best designed keyboards I have had in a long time.

Regards,
Sieghard 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Keyboard Recommendations

Hello,

Can anyone make recommendations for full Bluetooth keyboards for use primarily 
with a PC laptop but also usable with iOS devices? I’m looking for a quiet 
mechanical keyboard. I thought I’d found one by Matias, but the user reviews 
aren’t convincing. Ideally, the arrow keys will be offset, and the six-pack of 
keys will be included—Home, End, Page Up, etc. I have an Apple keyboard but am 
looking for the full keyboard with number pad. Any thoughts? Thank you kindly 
in advance.

Joe

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