That is the precise experience I have. I today used it on some other documents 
besides the court ones I described, with the same result; KNFB Reader gave much 
better quality and was much easier to get the document in view of the camera.

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Nancy Badger <nancybad...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> The only reason I use kNFB FB reader now is  is when I want to have more than 
> one page in a single document. I don’t think seeing AI does that yet.
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Executive Director of Counseling
> Old Dominion University
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>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:21 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I've not had much luck with Seeing AI's document channel, either. Strange. 
>> I'm getting a bit better at getting the hold steady announcement a little 
>> faster--I guess all that practice with KNFB was helpful--but once the pic is 
>> processed by Seeing AI, 99% of the time, I get a message about there being 
>> no text. It's super frustrating. And since I'm pretty sure Seeing AI's 
>> default is to control the flash automatically, and since I do get results on 
>> the same text using the short text channel, I have no idea why this is 
>> happening.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is not my experience at all.
>>> But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
>>> With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera 
>>> to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text 
>>> mode is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or 
>>> changes the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't 
>>> really designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel 
>>> is for.
>>> But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
>>> Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update 
>>> this year for KNFB.
>>> Something I've asked for since it was released.
>>> Here's hoping it finally happens.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper 
>>>> documents. So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to 
>>>> really compare KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though 
>>>> I bought it) and Seeing AI.
>>>> 
>>>> My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by 
>>>> a country mile.
>>>> 
>>>> Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the 
>>>> basic information about a case. When trying to do the document channel 
>>>> with Seeing AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was 
>>>> not visible no matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the 
>>>> phone really high and got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not 
>>>> recognize a bit of text.
>>>> 
>>>> With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views 
>>>> to orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with 
>>>> very few flaws at all.
>>>> 
>>>> In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. 
>>>> I can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.
>>>> 
>>>> Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than 
>>>> the document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled 
>>>> text ap some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a 
>>>> milimeter.
>>>> 
>>>> So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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