Well, for certain documents where accurate results are absolutely essential (tax forms, for example) I'm not sure either will work completely.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > Below is a scan of the back cover of a paperback first done with Seeing AI. > Following that, is the same back cover done with KNFB Reader. Sitting at my > desk using my iPhone SE. > > Back cover with Seeing AI: > > and Heroism! > > ARE YOU READY? > > iant earthquakes and tsunamis devastate western Oregon every 300 to 600 > years. The last one hit in 1700, so we're due anytime. This informative, > entertaining > book tells the stories of Oregon's past floods, fires, and eruptions. Then it > investigates the cycles behind our natural disasters and takes a look at > what may happen when the next "Big One" strikes. > > Also by WILLIAM L. 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I hkiH^ Or^^n's. ii^t^ty > l' ^! ^nn^0fv^m^ ilti Arc^ " Tfy C ^ tfr:n (n t h') n Also by WILLIAM L. > SULLIVAN Vh' "1W Hike^' f;i4i l ~l ^ •fw.- A" Onyn • A Pci' vr l ,;J 1W Onv > Stnvt I'u^w, OR 97403 - . , -. y rf -M^ - - S1S05 •-• •^ 80S > > Richard > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > kelby carlson > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:59 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI > > That is the precise experience I have. I today used it on some other > documents besides the court ones I described, with the same result; KNFB > Reader gave much better quality and was much easier to get the document in > view of the camera. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Nancy Badger <nancybad...@icloud.com> wrote: > > The only reason I use kNFB FB reader now is is when I want to have more than > one page in a single document. I don’t think seeing AI does that yet. > > Nancy Badger, Ph.D > Executive Director of Counseling > Old Dominion University > Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. > > On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:21 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote: > > I've not had much luck with Seeing AI's document channel, either. Strange. > I'm getting a bit better at getting the hold steady announcement a little > faster--I guess all that practice with KNFB was helpful--but once the pic is > processed by Seeing AI, 99% of the time, I get a message about there being no > text. It's super frustrating. And since I'm pretty sure Seeing AI's default > is to control the flash automatically, and since I do get results on the same > text using the short text channel, I have no idea why this is happening. > > > Thanks, > Ari > > On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > That is not my experience at all. > But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster. > With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera > to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode > is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes > the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really > designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for. > But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense. > Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update > this year for KNFB. > Something I've asked for since it was released. > Here's hoping it finally happens. > Richard > > > > > (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) > > On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper documents. > So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to really compare > KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I bought it) and > Seeing AI. > > My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a > country mile. > > Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the basic > information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with Seeing > AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not visible no > matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone really high and > got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not recognize a bit of text. > > With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to > orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very > few flaws at all. > > In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I > can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps. > > Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the > document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap > some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter. > > So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader. > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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