I don't use that button as a mute. I use it to control the position of the 
screen, but I did check it just in case.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Harry Bell 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 1:20 PM
  Subject: Re: new problem with update


  Sounds like your phone’s physical mute button has been accidentally moved?
  Harry

  On 28 Jan 2018, at 18:08, Vicki W. <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:


    No clicks and three finger double tap didn't work.


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Tom Rash 
      To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 1:00 PM
      Subject: RE: new problem with update


      If you can swipe around and hear clicks, then you may have muted voice 
over.  Try doing a three finger double tap to unmute voice over.





      From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Vicki W.
      Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 9:57 AM
      To: IPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
      Subject: new problem with update



      After updating to the latest IOS, my mini Ipad 2 lost voice over speech.



      Siri is working and says VO is turned on, but there is no speech with VO.



      I asked SIRI to turn on the speech and of course, SIRI didn't know what I 
was talking about.



      Sadly, when it happened, the screen was at 0% brightness and the screen 
curtain is on, which SIRI has no clue what that is.



      I can't turn the IPAD off using SIRI and the volume is turned up.



      I've tried various commands and no luck getting VO to talk.



      What can I do to either turn off the IPad or get Voice Over to start 
speaking.



      The battery level was at 61% when this happened and is still working.



      Thanks.



      Vicki



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