That seems like quite a large price difference. Here in the US, the price difference between the two devices is $300. I’m just not sure if I 14 sale display is going to be enough, even with a better keyboard. I wish they would settle on 20, like the folks from Baum did. But that device was so darn complicated. I guess nothings perfect. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed <li...@sadamahmed.com> wrote: > > You're welcome Mary. > > > I, too, have the larger BI display in my case the 40, and the keyboard on > that unit is great. > > > I'm still within my 30 day return window with Humanware so may decide to send > it back myself. > > > The Focus 14 and even for that matter the Focus 40 are fantastic. > > > Very well made and good keyboard with crisp key travel which isn't loud. > > > Here in Aussie land though it's $2300AUD a big difference from the $1350AUD > that Humanware charge. > > > Good luck and feel free to report back as to which way you go. > > > Best, > > > Sadam Ahmed > > >> On 8/14/2018 4:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Thanks for your comments. I have never seen any of the focus displays. A >> friend of mine has the 40 and loves it. I had a brilliant 32 and like the >> keyboard and the ergonomics. I wish I knew if the focus had similar layout >> in terms of the keys. I’m going to take this to a meeting tomorrow and try >> to take notes to see if I can get used to the mushy keyboard. If not, I will >> reluctantly not buy it and try to see if I can see a focus before laying out >> that kind of money. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed <li...@sadamahmed.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I did recently get the BI14 after waiting almost 6 months after order >>> placement. >>> >>> They sure did have lots of issues getting this one out the door. >>> >>> The compactness is appreciated, but the keyboard of the device is very >>> mushy, and not at all as pleasant as say, the larger BI40 that I use. >>> >>> It is however, much cheaper than the Focus 14 at least here in Australia. >>> >>> Maybe it's my imagination but the connection between the display and my >>> phone isn't cutting out as much as it used to. >>> >>> Overall not a bad display but I'd go for the Focus 14 if wanting to buy. >>> just a much nicer build quality than the HW offering. >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Sadam Ahmed >>> >>>> On 8/13/2018 12:51 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> I have to admit, I have never thought of connecting a braille display to >>>> an Apple TV. I have used a Bluetooth keyboard in the past, because it is >>>> so much faster to enter necessary passwords etc. That new touch remote >>>> that they have on the fourth generation and following has not appeal to >>>> me. I haven’t figured out how to make that as efficient as the old system >>>> was, which wasn’t great. Obviously, I missing something. I would be >>>> curious to know how you are making things efficient with your BI 14 on >>>> your Apple TV. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Barry Abbott <bpabbo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mary. I just received the BI14 this week. I have a first generation >>>>> focus 40 and a Braille Sense 40 display which was my wife's. I decided to >>>>> keep the Braille Sense as I like keeping : fidential information on it. >>>>> It has some note taking capability and works very well with the computer. >>>>> >>>>> I wanted a small display that I could use with my iPhone and my two Apple >>>>> TVGGS). I could not see myself doing any extensive reading on the 14 cell >>>>> display. But I do like the portability and the joystick when using it >>>>> with the iPhone and Apple TV(S) around the house. I also like being able >>>>> to connect it to several devices at once. >>>>> >>>>> My focus 40 was recently cleaned however some of the cells are still not >>>>> working correctly and I am not willing to put any money into fixing it as >>>>> I already have the Braille Sense. >>>>> >>>>> One thing I notice with the Bi14 is that if you type very fast you >>>>> sometimes get a different letter. When I typed the letters p and e in the >>>>> word "type" they came that as the letter quite. I have found this to be >>>>> the case on other displays as well. >>>>> >>>>> Barry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, Barry. How are you dealing with the short display length? >>>>>> Have you used other displays, those from humanware or capability. My do >>>>>> you think of the input keys on this compared with other displays you >>>>>> might have used? >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Barry Abbott <bpabbo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Mary. What you have to do first is one if using Gmail for example >>>>>>> go into your google Account and make sure that notes is turned on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Two on your BIA 14 when you’re in your notes application make sure that >>>>>>> you are in the Gmail folder when you write the note. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then if you want to force a sink press space with S. Otherwise your >>>>>>> note should link up the next time you turn the device on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The manual did not point out that you are supposed to ensure that the >>>>>>> notes are turned on within your account. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope this helps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Barryy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> I have a humanware bei14 on loan for a week or two. I like the >>>>>>>> compactness, but I just haven’t been able so far to get used to having >>>>>>>> so few cells. Especially with word wrap I guess, where sometimes, >>>>>>>> several cells are blank because the next whole word won’t fit on the >>>>>>>> line. I also don’t quite understand how the notes feature works. I >>>>>>>> have entered both my Google and Comcast accounts into the brailliant >>>>>>>> device. But I’m not sure what happens next. I have read the manual. My >>>>>>>> other comment is that I preferred the keyboard on the older humanware >>>>>>>> braille displays. The typing keys on this one are to my way of >>>>>>>> thinking, mushy. I’m thinking I probably won’t buy it, but I do want >>>>>>>> to give it a fair chance. I like the price, and I like the idea of >>>>>>>> having notetaking ability which I could, or not, sync up with my >>>>>>>> phone. 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