They'll sell them, I would think. Recently, I heard that AT*T was selling them 
for $100.00. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Arrigo
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone SE

I wonder what the apple stores will do with the SE phones that are left in 
their inventory? Do they sell them or send them back to Apple's headquarters.
Original message:
> Craig,

> My prediction proved true. Apple today discontinued the iPhone SE. it 
> has a boatload of SE phones that it needs to unload and carriers have 
> to meet their quota or buy phones that they can't sell.

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> On 9/12/18, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello, Kelly and everyone.

>> Interesting about the prerogatives iPhone vendors have.  This makes 
>> good sense in a competitive environment which is getting more 
>> competitive.  I do indeed live in a big city where numerous vendors 
>> jockey  for customers.  Since I do a lot of traveling away from my 
>> home and often pass through rural areas, I like to have reasonable 
>> assurance I'll get a good signal.  In addition, I have never had a 
>> dispute with my carrier.  I know I can get a lower priced plan from 
>> Brand X, but for the time being, I'm making no moves.

>> Again, thanks to everyone for a lively discussion.

>> Craig

>> On 9/10/18, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What many do not realize is the pressure phone companies have to 
>>> maintain a relationship with Apple. They are required to buy a 
>>> certain number of phones and sell them at any price they wish. As a 
>>> partner, the big phone companies may get secret information, such as 
>>> advanced notice of Apple discontinuing the SE.  Apple needs to move 
>>> this inventory of old phones and AT&T needs to meet its quota or it 
>>> will be forced to buy phones from Apple that it cannot move through 
>>> its sales channel easily.  Apple could offer deeply discounted 
>>> phones to AT&T who then sells them only to existing customers with 
>>> really old phones at a steep discount. Craig gets a brand new cheap 
>>> iPhone and the companies are happy because Apple was able to 
>>> maintain pricing power, eliminate unneeded inventory, and AT&T can 
>>> meet its sales quota this year.

>>> Craig, I understand your interest in keeping your provider. I live 
>>> in a really big city and the major companies all provide service here.
>>> downstate, Sprint and T-Mobile service is spotty and some areas are 
>>> only served by Verizon or AT&T. You may be in a similar situation.

>>> Kelly

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>>> On 9/8/18, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello, Sieghard, Carolyn, and everyone.

>>>> Sieghard, when I first spoke to my provider's sales rep about the 
>>>> $100 price tag of the SE, I had the same concerns as you.  I asked 
>>>> him in three different ways about whether there were hidden or 
>>>> undiscussed costs associated with the purchase.  For instance, at 
>>>> one point, I phrased the question in words very similar to these: 
>>>> "Can you assure me that the phone is paid in full if I give you 
>>>> $100 and that no change to my monthly bill will occur as a result of this 
>>>> purchase?"
>>>> He assured me this was true.  When I read your understandably 
>>>> skeptical message, I phoned the manager of my provider's store and 
>>>> asked him if I could mention the name of the provider on this user 
>>>> group.  I wanted to represent the provider accurately, I said, 
>>>> having been a customer for eighteen years.  He said yes, and added 
>>>> that the provider, AT&T, is offering a limited time promotional 
>>>> offer for GO Phone users in the northeastern U.S. of $100 for an iPhone Se.

>>>> Craig


>>>> On 9/8/18, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>> Sieghard, I am having to stay with Consumer Cellular at least six 
>>>>> months to pay for my SE. I probably have no intention of leaving 
>>>>> them, but that validates what you say. I have no idea what kind of 
>>>>> penalty I would incur if I left them before payments are 
>>>>> completed, which they will be on October 21.


>>>>> Best regards,

>>>>> Carolyn


>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:45 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone 
>>>>> SE

>>>>> Hi Craig,

>>>>> I am not sure I totally understand how your provider works. You 
>>>>> say they would sell you an iPhone SE for $100 and that is it? You 
>>>>> could discontinue service with them a week later with no penelty?
>>>>> You say there is no contract, but I somehow doubt they give you a 
>>>>> $350 phone for $100 without charging you somewhere to recover the 
>>>>> additional cost.
>>>>> How
>>>>> much do you pay per month?
>>>>> You don't of course have to answer, but I have found in 25 years 
>>>>> of owining cell phones that if you get a phone at a reduced price 
>>>>> the provider will charge you somewhere for that phone in addition 
>>>>> to whatever reduced price you pay.
>>>>> I am always amazed how people here get into these 2-year contracts 
>>>>> where they get a phone for less tha it's cost were they to buy it 
>>>>> outright and they think it's an OK deal. Then the 2 years pass and 
>>>>> the contract ends which means the phone is paid off yet the 
>>>>> provider does not now suddenly drop the price of their plan by $20 
>>>>> or whatever amount would be justified.
>>>>> Also, in the uS more of these annual upgrade plans are offered 
>>>>> than here in Canada I think and again people happily pay for them 
>>>>> and think they are getting a great deal since all they pay is 
>>>>> their monthly plan and yet they get to upgrade every year. Most 
>>>>> apparently don't realize that again with these plans the carriers 
>>>>> charge to cover the costs and the plan of course is a lot more 
>>>>> expensive than a plan they could get were they to buy a phone 
>>>>> outright and look for a low-cost plan which doesn't include extra 
>>>>> charges to pay off a phone or, as in these annual upgrade plans, 
>>>>> to essentially lease the phone.

>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sieghard


>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Craig Werner
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 6:01 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone 
>>>>> SE

>>>>> Thanks very much to the many members who posted replies to my question.
>>>>> I
>>>>> never thought my post would garner such a plentiful response.

>>>>> Since I have for a long time been out of contract with my cell 
>>>>> phone provider of eighteen years, and since I wish to remain with 
>>>>> them for the time being, at least, I don't want to consider 
>>>>> contractual phone buying with anyone.  The price of $100 is 
>>>>> alluring since it comes with no strings attached; that is, the 
>>>>> phone would be entirely paid for, and my monthly bill would be 
>>>>> unaffected.  I am very partial to the small phone chassis, and 
>>>>> since I fully understand but am immune to the blandishments of 
>>>>> phone technology features that I do not need, the offer is indeed 
>>>>> compelling.
>>>>> Of
>>>>> course, if I buy the phone and then the price drops after Sept. 
>>>>> 12, or if Apple should come out with an advanced four-inch phone 
>>>>> (which I doubt), I will kick my self.
>>>>> However, I have done self-kicking before, and the pain wears off 
>>>>> pretty quickly.  <grin>

>>>>> The bottom line: I'm most grateful to everyone for their opinions, 
>>>>> and I'll be curious to see what happens on Sept. 12.

>>>>> Craig

>>>>> On 9/5/18, Cristobal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I like my SE, but right now is probably the worst time of the 
>>>>>> year to either buy an older phone or commit to any sort of 
>>>>>> contract payment structure for one. By next week, you'll probably 
>>>>>> be able to score a better deal for the phone you want. Be it a 
>>>>>> newer one or older one since everyone and their momma who's 
>>>>>> interested in upgrading will be itching to get rid of their older 
>>>>>> devices or businesses trying to clear out old stock.

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:05 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone 
>>>>>> SE

>>>>>> I have both an SE and an iphone 8, there are times when I prefer 
>>>>>> to carry a smaller phone, there's really not much of a speed 
>>>>>> difference, it's definitely faster than the iphone 5 you are 
>>>>>> upgrading from, you will notice a big improvement, if you like 
>>>>>> that phone size, go for it, it's a great phone.
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> I can tell you that I really, I mean really like my SE. I have 
>>>>>>> had a 4S and all kind of feature phones, but finally, I have 
>>>>>>> something I enjoy using.

>>>>>>> Best regards,

>>>>>>> Carolyn


>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Craig Werner
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 5:13 AM
>>>>>>> To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone SE

>>>>>>> Hello, everyone.

>>>>>>> I am considering replacing my iPhone with an iPhone SE since my 
>>>>>>> carrier is offering the latter for $100.  I don't want a phone 
>>>>>>> with lots of bells and whistles, but I would like one that runs 
>>>>>>> iOS 11X, which the iPhone does not allow.  Are there compelling 
>>>>>>> reasons why I should not upgrade to the SE?  Thanks for any advice.

>>>>>>> Craig

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