What many do not realize is the pressure phone companies have to
maintain a relationship with Apple. They are required to buy a certain
number of phones and sell them at any price they wish. As a partner,
the big phone companies may get secret information, such as advanced
notice of Apple discontinuing the SE. Apple needs to move this
inventory of old phones and AT&T needs to meet its quota or it will be
forced to buy phones from Apple that it cannot move through its sales
channel easily. Apple could offer deeply discounted phones to AT&T
who then sells them only to existing customers with really old phones
at a steep discount. Craig gets a brand new cheap iPhone and the
companies are happy because Apple was able to maintain pricing power,
eliminate unneeded inventory, and AT&T can meet its sales quota this
year.
Craig, I understand your interest in keeping your provider. I live in
a really big city and the major companies all provide service here.
downstate, Sprint and T-Mobile service is spotty and some areas are
only served by Verizon or AT&T. You may be in a similar situation.
Kelly
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On 9/8/18, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, Sieghard, Carolyn, and everyone.
>
> Sieghard, when I first spoke to my provider's sales rep about the $100
> price tag of the SE, I had the same concerns as you. I asked him in
> three different ways about whether there were hidden or undiscussed
> costs associated with the purchase. For instance, at one point, I
> phrased the question in words very similar to these: "Can you assure
> me that the phone is paid in full if I give you $100 and that no
> change to my monthly bill will occur as a result of this purchase?"
> He assured me this was true. When I read your understandably
> skeptical message, I phoned the manager of my provider's store and
> asked him if I could mention the name of the provider on this user
> group. I wanted to represent the provider accurately, I said, having
> been a customer for eighteen years. He said yes, and added that the
> provider, AT&T, is offering a limited time promotional offer for GO
> Phone users in the northeastern U.S. of $100 for an iPhone Se.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On 9/8/18, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Sieghard, I am having to stay with Consumer Cellular at least six months
>> to
>> pay for my SE. I probably have no intention of leaving them, but that
>> validates what you say. I have no idea what kind of penalty I would incur
>> if
>> I left them before payments are completed, which they will be on October
>> 21.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone SE
>>
>> Hi Craig,
>>
>> I am not sure I totally understand how your provider works. You say they
>> would sell you an iPhone SE for $100 and that is it? You could
>> discontinue
>> service with them a week later with no penelty?
>> You say there is no contract, but I somehow doubt they give you a $350
>> phone
>> for $100 without charging you somewhere to recover the additional cost.
>> How
>> much do you pay per month?
>> You don't of course have to answer, but I have found in 25 years of
>> owining
>> cell phones that if you get a phone at a reduced price the provider will
>> charge you somewhere for that phone in addition to whatever reduced price
>> you pay.
>> I am always amazed how people here get into these 2-year contracts where
>> they get a phone for less tha it's cost were they to buy it outright and
>> they think it's an OK deal. Then the 2 years pass and the contract ends
>> which means the phone is paid off yet the provider does not now suddenly
>> drop the price of their plan by $20 or whatever amount would be
>> justified.
>> Also, in the uS more of these annual upgrade plans are offered than here
>> in
>> Canada I think and again people happily pay for them and think they are
>> getting a great deal since all they pay is their monthly plan and yet
>> they
>> get to upgrade every year. Most apparently don't realize that again with
>> these plans the carriers charge to cover the costs and the plan of course
>> is
>> a lot more expensive than a plan they could get were they to buy a phone
>> outright and look for a low-cost plan which doesn't include extra charges
>> to
>> pay off a phone or, as in these annual upgrade plans, to essentially
>> lease
>> the phone.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Craig
>> Werner
>> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 6:01 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone SE
>>
>> Thanks very much to the many members who posted replies to my question.
>> I
>> never thought my post would garner such a plentiful response.
>>
>> Since I have for a long time been out of contract with my cell phone
>> provider of eighteen years, and since I wish to remain with them for the
>> time being, at least, I don't want to consider contractual phone buying
>> with
>> anyone. The price of $100 is alluring since it comes with no strings
>> attached; that is, the phone would be entirely paid for, and my monthly
>> bill
>> would be unaffected. I am very partial to the small phone chassis, and
>> since I fully understand but am immune to the blandishments of phone
>> technology features that I do not need, the offer is indeed compelling.
>> Of
>> course, if I buy the phone and then the price drops after Sept. 12, or if
>> Apple should come out with an advanced four-inch phone (which I doubt), I
>> will kick my self.
>> However, I have done self-kicking before, and the pain wears off pretty
>> quickly. <grin>
>>
>> The bottom line: I'm most grateful to everyone for their opinions, and
>> I'll
>> be curious to see what happens on Sept. 12.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On 9/5/18, Cristobal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I like my SE, but right now is probably the worst time of the year to
>>> either buy an older phone or commit to any sort of contract payment
>>> structure for one. By next week, you'll probably be able to score a
>>> better deal for the phone you want. Be it a newer one or older one
>>> since everyone and their momma who's interested in upgrading will be
>>> itching to get rid of their older devices or businesses trying to clear
>>> out old stock.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>>> Mike Arrigo
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone SE
>>>
>>> I have both an SE and an iphone 8, there are times when I prefer to
>>> carry a smaller phone, there's really not much of a speed difference,
>>> it's definitely faster than the iphone 5 you are upgrading from, you
>>> will notice a big improvement, if you like that phone size, go for it,
>>> it's a great phone.
>>> Original message:
>>>> I can tell you that I really, I mean really like my SE. I have had a
>>>> 4S and all kind of feature phones, but finally, I have something I
>>>> enjoy using.
>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>> Carolyn
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Craig Werner
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 5:13 AM
>>>> To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Seeking Advice on Upgrading from iPhone 5 to iPhone SE
>>>
>>>> Hello, everyone.
>>>
>>>> I am considering replacing my iPhone with an iPhone SE since my
>>>> carrier is offering the latter for $100. I don't want a phone with
>>>> lots of bells and whistles, but I would like one that runs iOS 11X,
>>>> which the iPhone does not allow. Are there compelling reasons why I
>>>> should not upgrade to the SE? Thanks for any advice.
>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>
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