I certainly have not noticed any significant battery drainage I have VDR open but not reading, so it’s in the background just hanging around. So maybe they can’t duplicate it. If they can’t duplicate it, unfortunately they can’t fix it.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 17, 2018, at 8:45 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am not speaking in terms of accessibility only. Frequently when updating an > app, a feature that worked perfectly fine will be gone or messed up. For > example, after the last VDR update the "go to page" button disappeared for no > reason and never came back, and VDR now drains the battery significantly in > the background even when not reading a book, requiring it to be closed > completely when not in use. I have reported these bugs, and for doing so I > was told never to contact the developer again. (Before anyone asks, I did try > a complete reinstall with no change.) > > This is not exclusive to VDR, so I'm not targeting it specifically. This has > happened with almost every app I frequently use at some point, not to mention > that major iOS updates are also likely to introduce bugs, accessibility and > otherwise. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, 'Paul Porter' via VIPhone >> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> You can delete in the app. >> >> Tap delete. Next tap the delete button to the left of the book you want to >> delete. two delete buttons appear. Press the furtherst left and the book is >> deleted. Press delete again to go back to the list of books without the >> delete option. >> >> I hope this makes sense. >> >> Paul >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 17 Sep 2018, at 15:57, Marie N. <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have >>> verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for >>> deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I >>> am running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the >>> problem exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not >>> yet fixed it, so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible >>> extensively and need to be able to delete. >>> Marie >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update >>> >>> I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in >>> saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as >>> improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it >>> refers to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and >>> developers who have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps >>> have continued to be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has >>> been good for many years and there are lots of others. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary >>> Otten >>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update >>> >>> Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use VDR because it’s the best thing >>> out there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to >>> rebuild this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other >>> than the ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m >>> interested to know what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I >>> go to iOS 12? It didn’t say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what >>> I have and can still upgrade to the new iOS. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility. >>>> She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational >>>> structure was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice. >>>> I think she may have also lost some files and had to track them down again. >>>> So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not >>>> interested in. >>>> If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was >>>> something else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her >>>> library will not get screwed up yet again. >>>> >>>> As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best. The >>>> fact that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second time of >>>> having to rebuild a huge library says a lot for how good Voice Dream is >>>> compared to all other apps of its kind. >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under >>>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>> Devin Prater >>>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:52 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update >>>> >>>> No, I must disagree there. Updates, especially for app makers like Voice >>>> Dream, LLC, who strive to make accessible apps, will not usually break >>>> accessibility, because they have good Beta testers, and probably test the >>>> updates with VoiceOver themselves. Please try not to spread fear, >>>> uncertainty, and doubt about updating most apps. Sure, apps like Messenger >>>> have had major problems in the past, but that's because of arrogant >>>> Facebook not taking accessibility seriously, in my opinion. . >>>> >>>> Devin Prater >>>> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind >>>> JAWS certified >>>> >>>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 5:04 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Updates are just as likely to break the app as improve it. (This goes >>>>> for all apps.) >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:21 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, Andy, I have been bitten in the butt before with updates. Losing >>>>>> library and having to rebuild them. So I’m not too interested in just >>>>>> updating for updating say. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the update is free, why not? >>>>>>> Updates usually contain under the hood improvements and bug fixes. >>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" >>>>>>> <maryot...@comcast.net> >>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>; <mac4thebl...@freelists.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:03 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Voice dream reader update >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I see that there is a Voice Dream reader update out which says it has >>>>>>> compatibility with iOS 12. The only things mentioned in the notes are >>>>>>> Siri shortcuts and reading list. And the specific thing about Siri >>>>>>> shortcuts relates to reading list. So if you don’t care about reading >>>>>>> list which I don’t, why update? 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