Definitely not standard behavior after major updates. I’ve never had this 
happen on my bard APP THANK GOD.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 20 sep 2018, a la(s) 9:15 a. m., Marie N. <scribbl...@comcast.net> escribió:

> Lisa, I would say that the issue with Bard is definitely not standard 
> behavior with an upgrade and I did not have this with either my ITouch or 
> IPhone. I am constantly surprised when people have such diverse experiences 
> when upgrading the same model of phones. But this might have been because you 
> were skipping IOS 11 whereas I was not.
> Marie
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:06 PM
> To: V I Phone
> Subject: Re: Update was Re: iOS Update Advice needed
> 
> Well, I haven't had that much trouble, to be honest.  Most of my
> settings were intact with one huge exception that I'll talk about below.
> 
> 
> The only issue I had was with the BARD app.  I couldn't navigate from
> tab to tab at all.  I closed the app, restarted the phone, and had the
> same problem.  My next step would have been uninstalling and then
> downloading it again.  But I checked the main settings screen and found
> the BARD Mobile app and found an option to initialize settings within
> that subsection.
> 
> 
> This meant that when I reopened the app, I had to agree to the BARD
> terms of service and reenter my user name and password.  Once this was
> done, my bookshelf, wish list and previous downloads were restored,
> though I did have to readjust settings for using cellular data from
> within the BARD Mobile app.  Oh, and the option to hear progress beeps
> was on when I had it set to off before the update.
> 
> 
> For all I know this could be standard behavior, but I don't remember
> having to do it when I was using BARD with my iPhone 5, but who knows. I
> tend to block out stressful technical things to keep my sanity. <grin>
> 
> 
> The battery seems to be draining faster than usual.  I'm assuming this
> is part of the update as indicated in the article someone mentioned on
> this list the other day.
> 
> 
> Also, I have downloaded the SIRI female voice to use with VO.  It works
> great, but I can't adjust anything as far as volume, speaking rate or
> pitch is concerned.  I've got speaking rate and volume on my rotor, and
> they do absolutely nothing for the female SIRI voice.  I have UK and
> Australian voices in my rotor, as well as the male SIRI U.S. voice and
> they all can be adjusted.
> 
> 
> None of these are showstoppers for me.  I'm sure I'll run across minor
> things.  So far every app I've opened that is part of the native iOS
> package gives me welcome screens and little summaries about new
> features.  But all works as it should once I've gotten past those screens.
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
>> On 9/19/2018 9:45 PM, Robin wrote:
>> ThankYou,Lisa B for sharing your Experience  with  your Findings about 
>> transitioning from iOS10.3.3  to iOS12 on  an iPhoneSE ... Have you noticed 
>> any HickUps or perceived flaws or perceived bugs? If so, have these Flaws or 
>> Bugs or HickUps impacted your performance using VoiceOver (I,Robin Presume) 
>> you,Lisa B use VoiceOver  ... on Apple's iOS12
>> 
>> What Replacement did you Locate   for the iOS MobileApp, EyeNote?
>> At 07:18 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:
>>> Robin, most of the apps I had that weren't compatible with iOS 11 would pop 
>>> up a message saying the developer needed to update the app before it would 
>>> work with iOS 11.  This was a pop up dialog that appeared when the app was 
>>> opened and could be gotten rid of with a double tap of the Okay button.  
>>> Once that dialog was gone, the app functioned normally.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just off the top of my head, the apps I no longer have access to are 
>>> Eyenote, Color ID, Agogo, Sixth Sense and Where's ducky. When I tried 
>>> opening these apps after the update I got the same message I'd get before 
>>> the update, only now the app doesn't open when the message disappears, I 
>>> just land back on the home screen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will miss Sixth Sense, but I've found better if not superior replacements 
>>> for the other apps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> 
>>>> On 9/19/2018 8:11 PM, Robin wrote:
>>>> ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from 
>>>> iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard & I 
>>>> don't See myself updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure if any 
>>>> of the usual or most often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or 64Bit & I 
>>>> recall iOS11 & Above don't support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS
>>>> I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa B could share 
>>>> YourExperiences with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this Mailing List 
>>>> as I beleive there are more people on the Fence, who might be interested 
>>>> in your Findings as it relates to Apple's iOS12 & the  Transition from 
>>>> iOS10.3.3
>>>> At 04:37 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:
>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I took the plunge and updated my SE from iOS 10X to 12.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Holy cow I'm just blown away.  I used to use iTunes or Over the air 
>>>>> updates for my iPhone five and it took forever. . . an hour at least some 
>>>>> times.  Going that long without speech made me nervous, so I started 
>>>>> using iTunes because it gave me a progress in percentages every few 
>>>>> minutes.  It still took forever.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> But today's update went off without a hitch and took about eight 
>>>>> minutes.  The last time I heard VO announce the time it said 2:26 
>>>>> which was the same thing my PC clock said.  I had the phone sitting 
>>>>> here next to me while I did Emails on the PC. Every couple of minutes 
>>>>> I'd use a light probe to see if the screen was still lit, which it 
>>>>> was.  Suddenly I heard the little chirpy noise that indicates VO has 
>>>>> done something. . . Opened or left a menu. The PC clock said 2:34 and so 
>>>>> did the phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't had any problems getting everything reconfigured.  I haven't 
>>>>> played around with some of the new changes, but so far I really like the 
>>>>> female SIRI voice.  She sounds so natural.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So for anyone with an SE that's a few iOS versions behind, you should 
>>>>> probably be Okay.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lisa
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>>> 
>>>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/18/2018 12:13 PM, Robin wrote:
>>>>>> Very Interested to Know YourResults pertaining to Updating your iPhoneSE 
>>>>>> with iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 because My  iPhoneSE is also on iOS10.3.3 
>>>>>> &  My MobileCarrier is VZW
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From what I'm Hearin, Apple's iOS12 is Stable & Snappy, which hasn't 
>>>>>> been the case  with the recent iOS updates from iOS8 & Up
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> GoodLuck
>>>>>> At 09:57 AM 9/18/2018, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am using windows 10 with the latest version of NVDA.šÂ  I 
>>>>>>> currently have an iPhone SE that is still running iOS 10.3. I 
>>>>>>> haven't updated it because in the past year I've had to update to a new 
>>>>>>> PC with Windows 10, and I used my phone as my primary technology for 
>>>>>>> several months before that, so was afraid to do an over the air update 
>>>>>>> to iOS 11.  Now, though,, I want to move up to iOS 12 if possible.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My concern has to do with whether or not to use iTunes or over the air 
>>>>>>> to do the update from two iOS versions behind.Âà Yes, all should 
>>>>>>> go well, but I don't want to wind up with a nice rose gold SE brick 
>>>>>>> phone. <grin>.
>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I used iTunes on my old XP system to update my iPhone 5, and when they 
>>>>>>> updated to a new machine, they copied everything over to the new hard 
>>>>>>> drive.  I have the old iTunes libraary, but not the iTunes 
>>>>>>> program itself, at least I don't find it doing a search.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have been following the discussion about iTunes accessibility, so I 
>>>>>>> downloaded iTunes for Business in the hope it would be easier than 
>>>>>>> previous versions of iTunes I've tried.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now I'm unsure if I should just install the business version or if I 
>>>>>>> need to do something with the residual iTunes that was copied from the 
>>>>>>> older system.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm also unsure if I just connect the phone to the new PC and the newly 
>>>>>>> installed iTunes will take it from there. II don't remember how I 
>>>>>>> dealt with this when I first got the iPhone and installed iTunes 
>>>>>>> several years ago.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Generally I put up with the inaccessable aspects of using iTunes 
>>>>>>> because I could get a running progress bar regarding update status, but 
>>>>>>> now I'm thinking I might deal with an hour or so of uncertainty and do 
>>>>>>> the over air update.  We don't have aan Apple store here, just a 
>>>>>>> Verizon store where I had the phone set up originally, and I don't have 
>>>>>>> a pair of working eyeballs around to handle reading a phone screen..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any advice or ideas would be appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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