I used a refreshabraille for a long time and liked it for the most part. Only 
thing I didn't like was the charging port was awkward and hard to put the 
charger in. I think mine was older though. I didn't think they were being made 
any longer. The Braille was OK not as sharp as the Orbit though.
On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:43 PM, Maria Reyes <blindathle...@gmail.com> wrote:

Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the Orbit 
reader 20. 

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> On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann <rkmcg...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> to all, 
> 
> 
> 
> i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 
> 
> somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
> filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since both 
> refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good brands. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
>> now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
>> stand-alone functions.
>> Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
>> getting good reviews now.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> — Jane Wagner
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net" <k...@axistech.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
>>> information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone 
>>> or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.
>>>  
>>> Karl
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>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> kitty hevener
>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If 
>>> u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb 
>>> port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device? 
>>>  
>>> From: Ed Worrell
>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
>>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>>> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> Hey Anthony,
>>>  
>>> To answer your questions.
>>>  
>>> 1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of 
>>> this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
>>> A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or 
>>> iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every 
>>> aspect of the I
>>> Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.
>>>  
>>> B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone 
>>> notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a 
>>> clock and stop watch in this mode as well.
>>>  
>>> Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back 
>>> of the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker 
>>> functions you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to 
>>> bluetooth mode and the braille display will sync with the companion app on 
>>> your iOS device. You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail 
>>> account to have it sync. If you are signed in with your iCloud account it 
>>> will sync notes with the Notes application that is now on all of Apple's 
>>> operating systems. You then can edit, print or view them from your iPad, 
>>> iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. All of your notes that are 
>>> saved in the Notes Application will be synced back and forth between your 
>>> iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that really sells me on 
>>> the device.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> HTH
>>>  
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Ed;
>>> Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you 
>>> use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there 
>>> anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so                                 
>>>     that it could possibly be used as a standalone device? thank you Anthony
>>>  
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>>  
>>> I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
>>> Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan 
>>> from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing 
>>> braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am 
>>> loving the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every 
>>> person has their preferences for braille displays.
>>>  
>>> HTH
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has 
>>> the same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
>>>  
>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
>>>                               ***                        
>>>  
>>> From: llump...@austin.rr.com
>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
>>> whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones 
>>> so I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any 
>>> braille file you put in it.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> Susie Stageberg
>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> Hello Lelia. My condolences.
>>>  
>>> I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only 
>>> has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. 
>>> But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India 
>>> and could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of 
>>> something called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are 
>>> calling themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet 
>>> dressed up to look like a notetaker.
>>>  
>>> But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I 
>>> am not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
>>> nothing to do with the phone. (grin)
>>>  
>>> Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
>>> computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
>>> without it.
>>>  
>>> Susie
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Lelia Struve
>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
>>> To: Viphone
>>> Subject: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
>>> shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am 
>>> wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or 
>>> line or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m 
>>> wondering is if anyone has used many braille displays which do you think is 
>>> the best for you?  I do realize that what                                   
>>>                 is best for one is it best for all. I am just wondering.
>>>  
>>> Lelia
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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