Yes. the charger was hard to put back in if you somehow removed it. But 
apparently they are making one with a removable charger. My friend has one of 
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> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:50 PM, Rebecca Ilniski <rilni...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I used a refreshabraille for a long time and liked it for the most part. Only 
> thing I didn't like was the charging port was awkward and hard to put the 
> charger in. I think mine was older though. I didn't think they were being 
> made any longer. The Braille was OK not as sharp as the Orbit though.
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:43 PM, Maria Reyes <blindathle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the 
> Orbit reader 20. 
> 
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>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann <rkmcg...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> to all, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 
>> 
>> somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
>> filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since 
>> both refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good 
>> brands. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
>>> now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
>>> stand-alone functions.
>>> Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
>>> getting good reviews now.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." — Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net" <k...@axistech.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for 
>>>> storing information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to 
>>>> your iPhone or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit 
>>>> overall.
>>>>  
>>>> Karl
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
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>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> kitty hevener
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>>>>  
>>>> can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  
>>>> If u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or 
>>>> usb port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device? 
>>>>  
>>>> From: Ed Worrell
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
>>>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>>>> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>>>>  
>>>> Hey Anthony,
>>>>  
>>>> To answer your questions.
>>>>  
>>>> 1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of 
>>>> this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
>>>> A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or 
>>>> iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every 
>>>> aspect of the I
>>>> Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.
>>>>  
>>>> B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone 
>>>> notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a 
>>>> clock and stop watch in this mode as well.
>>>>  
>>>> Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the 
>>>> back of the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the 
>>>> notetaker functions you will have to flip the switch on the back of the 
>>>> device to bluetooth mode and the braille display will sync with the 
>>>> companion app on your iOS device. You must be signed in with an iCloud 
>>>> account or Gmail                           account to have it sync. If you 
>>>> are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes 
>>>> application that is now on all of Apple's operating systems. You then can 
>>>> edit, print or view them from your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really 
>>>> cool feature. All of your notes that are saved in the Notes Application 
>>>> will be synced back and forth between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. 
>>>> This is the feature that really sells me on the device.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> HTH
>>>>  
>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi Ed;
>>>> Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan 
>>>> you use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is 
>>>> there anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly 
>>>> be used as a standalone device? thank you Anthony
>>>>  
>>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>>  
>>>> I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
>>>> Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on 
>>>> loan from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have 
>>>> amazing braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. 
>>>> I am loving the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email 
>>>> every person has their preferences for braille displays.
>>>>  
>>>> HTH
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has 
>>>> the same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
>>>>  
>>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! 
>>>>                                ***                        
>>>>  
>>>> From: llump...@austin.rr.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>>>  
>>>> We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
>>>> whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with 
>>>> phones so I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take 
>>>> any braille file you put in it.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Susie Stageberg
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>>>  
>>>> Hello Lelia. My condolences.
>>>>  
>>>> I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only 
>>>> has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille 
>>>> displays. But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company 
>>>> in  India and could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a 
>>>> demo of something called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever 
>>>> they are calling themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 
>>>> tablet dressed up to look like a notetaker.
>>>>  
>>>> But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I 
>>>> am not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
>>>> nothing to do with the phone. (grin)
>>>>  
>>>> Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
>>>> computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
>>>> without it.
>>>>  
>>>> Susie
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Lelia Struve
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
>>>> To: Viphone
>>>> Subject: Braille displays
>>>>  
>>>> Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
>>>> shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am 
>>>> wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or 
>>>> line or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing 
>>>> I’m wondering is if anyone has used many braille displays which do you 
>>>> think is the best for you?  I do realize that what is best for one is it 
>>>> best for all. I am just wondering.
>>>>  
>>>> Lelia
>>>>  
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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