Just to add something here about the focus 14 blue 5th gen. For those of you 
that own an older model, you may be able to turn it in for a bit of credit 
towards a new one.
 I asked about my particular unit and I would get $200. I’m just not sure if 
this is the route I want to go.

Traci


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> On Oct 23, 2018, at 7:05 AM, <llump...@austin.rr.com> 
> <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Mystic access did a braille me presentation several months ago and the device 
> in our opinion had serious flaws and wasn’t on our list to buy. We bought the 
> orbit and it has done everything we asked for.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>  
> So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what ever 
> happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only got a 
> short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys on the 
> Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am curious to 
> hear what anyone has to say on this. 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
> reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
> can control is your character.
> - Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>  
> The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
> Readers.
> There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are 
> talking $2500 or more.
> From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
> money, $449 plus shipping.
> It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
> devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.
> I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may 
> need to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific 
> has an updated driver for it.
> You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on 
> the American Printing House web site: www.aph.org
>  
> Richard
>  
> 
>  
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> — Jane Wagner
>  
> 
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez <yohand...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
> interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
> left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
> nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, 
> as Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys 
> recommend that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, 
> which is a little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the 
> market? does it work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it 
> work on mobile devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know 
> of any displays that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of 
> your hands on the display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it 
> definitely should be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a 
> little crazy. I have a device with a built in display, really old device, the 
> Braillenote MPower. I've no idea how to go about connecting the device to a 
> computer though. I think it used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it 
> was a while back. I still have the device here so if you guys know if those 
> old devices will work, and a way to use them on modern operating systems, let 
> me know. thanks so much for your help! tc all
>  
>  
>  
> On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
> now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
> stand-alone functions.
> Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
> getting good reviews now.
> Richard
>  
> 
>  
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> — Jane Wagner
>  
> 
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net" <k...@axistech.net> wrote:
> 
> The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
> information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
> other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.
> Karl
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of kitty 
> hevener
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille displays
> can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
> don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb port 
> where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device? 
> From: Ed Worrell
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Braille displays
> Hey Anthony,
> To answer your questions.
> 1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of 
> this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
> A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or 
> iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect 
> of the I
> Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.
> B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone 
> notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a 
> clock and stop watch in this mode as well.
> Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back 
> of the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker 
> functions you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to 
> bluetooth mode and the braille display will sync with the companion app on 
> your iOS device. You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail 
> account to have it sync. If you are signed in with your iCloud account it 
> will sync notes with the Notes application that is now on all of Apple's 
> operating systems. You then can edit, print or view them from your iPad, 
> iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. All of your notes that are saved 
> in the Notes Application will be synced back and forth between your iDevices 
> and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that really sells me on the device.
> HTH
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ed;
> Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you 
> use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there 
> anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as 
> a standalone device? thank you Anthony
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
> 
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
> Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan 
> from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing 
> braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am 
> loving the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every 
> person has their preferences for braille displays.
> HTH
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
> On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has the 
> same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!    
>                             ***                        
> From: llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Braille displays
> We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
> whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones 
> so I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille 
> file you put in it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Susie 
> Stageberg
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Braille displays
> Hello Lelia. My condolences.
> I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only 
> has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. 
> But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and 
> could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something 
> called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling 
> themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up 
> to look like a notetaker.
> But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
> not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
> nothing to do with the phone. (grin)
> Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
> computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
> without it.
> Susie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lelia Struve
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Braille displays
> Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
> shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am 
> wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or 
> line or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m 
> wondering is if anyone has used many braille displays which do you think is 
> the best for you?  I do realize that what is best for one is it best for all. 
> I am just wondering.
> Lelia
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