Well, on that old 4S I think it can not be updated and is still on 9 point 
something.  The only things that show up there are apple sign in and to give 
you an idea of how far back this goes, iTunes Match.  The 6 S already has 
iCloud turned on so the problem is with the 4 S.  I'll monkey with it and 
see what I can do.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donna
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 1:02 PM
  Subject: Re: a music question


  Are you using IOS 12.0.1? In IOS 12.0.1 in Settings, music, here is what 
is said...iCloud Music On Access music in your Library using iCloud, 
including songs, albums, and playlists from Apple Music. Changes you make to 
your Library will sync across all your devices.


  Donna

  On Oct 25, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Kay Malmquist <kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


    There is no ability to turn on iCloud in settings under music.  You can 
sign out of Apple but no iCloud anything there.

    Kay Malmquist
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Donna
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      Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 5:49 AM
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      Hi
       Go to settings & swipe down to music & turn on iCloud.


      Donna

      On Oct 24, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Kay Malmquist <kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


        In settings where?  The phone?  IN iTunes?  I'm not sure what you 
mean.  I'm not sure if this would help.  I loaded that music way back when 
and I haven't used iTunes since then and never plan to.
        Kay Malmquist
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          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Jennie Facer
          To: viphone@googlegroups.com
          Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:19 PM
          Subject: Re: a music question


          In settings, there is a setting that asks you if you want to play 
your iCloud library. Make sure you have that on. Now I can listen to all of 
the music I have purchased and all my music I have uploaded to my computer. 
Hope this helps.


          Jenn


          Jenn and Kumi

          On Oct 24, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:




            The short answer is no, you have to use iTunes.
            The long answer is also no.
            You would need to be sure that all your music from the 4s is in 
the iTunes Media, music folder and then you would have to be sure that sync 
all music is selected in iTunes when you sync your new phone.
            Richard





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            On Oct 24, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Kay Malmquist 
<kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> wrote:


              Hi all,
              ON my old iPhone 4 S I have music in the music app.  When I 
switched to the 6 S the only music that was transferred was an album that I 
bought from the iTunes store.  How do I transfer the other music that is 
still on my 4 S?  Please, without using iTunes.  Is there some way I can 
upload them to the iCloud and then have my 6S grab them?  Thanks for any 
help.

              Kay Malmquist
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