I agree Mary with everything you said in this message. However, I would add that if you are looking for substantive information rather than silly games, the Google home and mini is the best. My wife uses the Google products to get gardening info, medical information, recipes, and all kinds of factual information. The echo provides more choices in terms of music services.

Don Roberts

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I agree with you, Ed. I own a couple of echoes. Generally, I find that the Alexa system is horrible with respect to giving the information I actually need or could use, outside of the weather and a little bit of news briefing. and most of the skills are junk games and other Time wasters. That said, I do appreciate the echo for the easy access to SiriusXM and to its ability for reading kindle or audible books while I exercise. I’m not into the automated so-called smart home, so I have no comment on HomePod or echo in that regard. But as a music listening sores, the HomePods kill the echoes. They should, they are more expensive. I have a pair of HomePods that I got when the price came down to $500 for the pair. They sound almost as good as my wonderful floorstanding stereo speakers it cost me over twice what I paid for the HomePods. I would never consider any pair of echoes as any sort of real hi-fi system even for moderately good audio quality listening.


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On Dec 27, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have both an Apple HomePod and an Echo Dot connected to Bose speakers. I am not sure why everyone thinks the HomePod is so far behind on “skills”. The HomePod is a far better device, Now with Siri short cuts you can use third party apps to do things from the HomePod. I find the Apple speaker much simpler to use than the Amazon Echo. You have to remember very specific application names and commands to use the Echo’s 3 million fart applications. The skills on the Echo aren’t that impressive to me. It’s next to impossible to set up using the app, you almost always have to use the internet browser on a computer for full access to the settings.

JMO

Ed Worrell

On Dec 24, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:

The home pod is behind both the Echo and Google home in many respects. Even with general features, the home pod is really lacking, and I think you can now play Apple music on the echo so there is little reason to get a home pod. Hopefully Apple will catch up but they have a ways to go.

On Dec 23, 2018, at 5:36 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

You know, one of the most popular request made to both Apple and Amazon is
that they provide independent sound equalizer support for their
music/speaker devices.

When I purchased my first Echo device, a while ago, this feature was not
available.  The same was true for HomePod.

However, recently, this feature has now been added to the Echo interface, under audio from within the Settings area of the Alexa app. This is very,
very nice.

However, Apple has not added this feature to HomePod. At least, if it has,
I have not been abel to locate it in the HomePod interface.

And yes, I know there is a general sound equalizer, of sort, in the iOS
settings area of the music app but, hereto, Apple falls short as these
options are merely presets, not true customizable controls. Moreover, one should not have to adjust the sound levels for an entire operating system in
order to customize the sound setting for one specific device that is
marketed as an entertainment listening device.

Besides, it's ridiculous to pay over $300 for a speaker and not have the
ability to adjust its sound settings, independently.

I have owned my HomePod for over a year or so, I think, and have only used
it 3 times because there is just too much bass, for my liking.

With the overwhelming success of Echo, you'd think that Apple would realize
that, especially when it comes to hearing, as well as vision, one size
definitely does not fit all.

Just some venting, on my part.

Mark

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