Thankful I got my SE for $160. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Gordon
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Subject: Re: The End Of Apple, Forbes Magazine

And of course Apple has brought the SE back for $249 for the 32 gig version and 
$299 for the 128. This will help keep them in the game giving those who are 
working with a budget an opportunity to have an iPhone. For years Android was 
so popular because you could get several phones for under $100. I'm surprised 
that Apple hasn't introduced something like that. But these Apple products are 
built to last, so that
$249 SE could last as long as several of the Androids under $100.

On 1/22/2019 2:04 AM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
> Three or four years ago I was quoted a price of 700 not including tax foran 
> iPhone 6 from an Apple store. I bought one for 350 as a deal from my carrier. 
> And yes you can even buy a new one for $150 as long is two years ago and that 
> is an Apple iPhone from AARP. So no not all iPhones of cost as much as $1000 
> over the past years.
>
> Deidre
>
>
>> On Jan 22, 2019, at 1:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>
>> By the way, Mark, I mean no offense, but I have to say I'm surprised you 
>> post such link bait.
>>
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 9:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: The End Of Apple, Forbes Magazine
>>
>> The End Of Apple
>> By Stephen McBride
>>
>> "Oh man, that's almost a month's rent for me."
>> Here I am sitting in a cab in New York City.
>> I'm headed uptown to Columbia University where we'll hold the 
>> first-ever American Disruption Summit. (You can register to watch for 
>> free here.) The driver and I are talking about the absurd price tag 
>> of the latest Apple
>> (AAPL) iPhone.
>> He's shocked when I tell him the cheapest model is $1,149.
>> "Who can afford that?" he asks.
>>
>> Apple's Imminent Crash Has Begun
>> Apple has had an incredible decade.
>> Since the iPhone debuted in 2007, the company's sales have jumped tenfold.
>> The stock has soared over 700%.
>> And up until last November, it was the world's largest publicly 
>> traded company.
>> But two weeks ago, Apple issued a rare warning that shocked investors.
>> For the first time since 2002, the company slashed its earnings forecast.
>> The stock plunged 10% for its worst day in six years.
>> This capped off a horrible few months in which Apple stock crashed 
>> about 35% from its November peak.
>>
>> That erased $446 billion in shareholder value-the biggest wipeout of 
>> wealth in a single stock ever.
>> And it's only the beginning.
>> Apple's Strong Revenue Growth Hides a Dirty Secret If you looked at 
>> Apple's sales numbers, you wouldn't see anything wrong.
>> Since 2001, Apple has seen steady revenue growth:
>>
>> By this measure, Apple's business seems perfectly healthy. But 
>> there's a secret hidden behind these headline numbers.
>> Despite the revenue growth, Apple is selling fewer iPhones every year.
>> In fact, iPhone unit sales peaked way back in 2015. Last year, Apple 
>> sold 14 million fewer phones than it did three years ago.
>> Apple Kept Revenue Growth Only by Raising iPhone Prices In 2010, you 
>> could buy a brand-new iPhone 4 for 199 bucks.
>> In 2014, the newly released iPhone 6 cost 299 bucks.
>> Today the cheapest model of the latest iPhone X costs $1,149!
>> It's a 500% hike from what Apple charged eight years ago.
>> But technology always gets cheaper over time.
>> Not so long ago, a flat-screen high-definition TV was a luxury. Even 
>> a small one cost thousands of dollars. Today you can get a 55-inch 
>> one from Best Buy for $500.
>> In 1984, Motorola sold the first cell phone for $4,000. The average 
>> price for a smartphone today is $320, according to research firm IDC.
>> Cell phone prices have come down roughly 92%. And yet, Apple has 
>> hiked its smartphone prices by 500%!
>> Frankly, it's remarkable that Apple has managed to pull this off.
>> But let me tell you this.
>> Apple Can't Raise Prices Anymore
>> It comes down to the lifecycle of disruptive businesses.
>> Twelve years ago, only 120 million people owned a cell phone. Today 
>> over five billion people own a smartphone, according to IDC.
>> Apple was the driving force behind this explosion. As the dominant 
>> player in a rapidly growing market, it become the most profitable 
>> publicly traded company in history.
>> Then iPhone sales growth stalled in 2015. This would've been the end 
>> for most businesses.
>> But Apple did a masterful job of extending its prime through price hikes.
>> Its prestigious brand and army of die-hard fans allowed it to charge 
>> prices that seemed crazy just a few years ago.
>> But now iPhone price hikes have gone about as far as they can go.
>> After all, what's the most you would pay for a smartphone?
>> $1,500?
>> $2,000?
>>
>> How bad is this? It's so bad that Apple now keeps it a secret.
>> In November, Apple announced it would stop disclosing iPhone unit sales.
>> This is a very important piece of information. Investors deserve to know it.
>> Yet Apple now keeps it secret.
>> Keep in Mind, the iPhone is Apple's Crown Jewel iPhone generates 
>> two-thirds of Apple's overall sales.
>> Let that sink in.
>> A publicly traded company that makes most of its money from selling 
>> phones is no longer telling investors how many phones it sells!
>> And its other business lines can't pick up the slack for falling 
>> iPhone sales.
>> Twenty percent of Apple's revenue comes from iPads and computers. 
>> Those segments are also stagnant.
>> Which means 86% of Apple's business is going nowhere.
>> Could Apple go the other way and slash iPhone prices?
>> I ran the numbers.
>> If Apple cut prices back to 2016 levels, it would have to sell 41 
>> million additional phones just to match 2018's revenue.
>>
>> Will Apple Meet Nokia's Fate?
>> Before Apple, Nokia (NOK) was king of cell phones.
>> In 2007 the front-cover headline of a major business magazine read:
>> "Nokia: One billion customers-can anyone catch the cell phone king?"
>> The iPhone debuted in 2007. Here's Nokia's stock chart since then:
>>
>> Original Article at:
>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenmcbride1/2019/01/21/the-end-of-ap
>> ple/#68
>> 6fdd936dc0
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