I see the point, but what about when they come on and advertising sales, like 
the developer of blind square did not terribly long ago. Or KNFB Reader in the 
past. I just think it’s hair splitting. Especially given the amount of other 
stuff that could be deemed off-topic or irrelevant by a strict moderator. I 
think this post got singled out, and even though I don’t care about this 
product, I know a bunch of folks do. So whatever.


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> On Jan 26, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> But there's a difference between a person talking about an app they like and 
> a corporate executive touting his company's product.
> 
> Andy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" <motte...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
> 
> 
> Hi Mark,
> I think you were splitting hairs here. Plenty of people get on here and talk 
> about apps that are accessible and how that benefits them. For instance, the 
> Seeing AI app and all the uses to which they put it. So what is your problem 
> with this? I don’t use this service, and I don’t see myself doing cell 
> anytime soon, due to my own personal circumstances. So I have no vested 
> interest here. But given some of the questionable articles that even you have 
> posted, notably that nonsense from Forbes magazine, which is a miserable 
> record when it comes to anything Apple related, I think you should either 
> start looking at your own post a bit more or lighten up on this one. Just my 
> two cents.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 5:31 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> I see your point, Andy.  Be that as it may, any new service being offered to 
>> our community, is always appreciated.
>> 
>> However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be discussed on 
>> this list.  Any questions regarding the service, itself, to be taken 
>> off-list, immediately.
>> 
>> Thank you all for observing this policy.
>> 
>> Moderator Mark
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>> 
>> I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James English" <james13engl...@gmail.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On 1/26/19, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of Explorer
>>>> communications. Since Aira has an iOS app, I thought the following info
>>>> may
>>>> be of interest to some.
>>>> 
>>>> For those not familiar with Aira, we provide real-tine audio description
>>>> of
>>>> anything visual, provided by security-vetted, trained professionals. You
>>>> can
>>>> use it with your iPhone on its own, or if you perform any tasks where
>>>> it's
>>>> useful to have both of your hands free, we offer optional smart glasses.
>>>> 
>>>> The Aira app is free, and it's free to use in an increasing number of
>>>> locations, or for an increasing number of tasks. We also offer
>>>> subscription
>>>> plans, much like cell phone plans, where you can use it for any task,
>>>> anywhere.
>>>> 
>>>> If you've been curious about Aira and have wanted to take it for a spin
>>>> in
>>>> your own environment, we've released a free 7-Day Trial of our full paid
>>>> service. This offer means that anyone with a free account can try anytime
>>>> access to Aira's professional agents whenever it suits them - just like a
>>>> paying subscriber.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The 7-Day Trial provides 30 minutes to try Aira's service over a period
>>>> of
>>>> seven days. Some of that time will be used for setting up account
>>>> preferences and asking questions about the service, but the majority of
>>>> that
>>>> time is free to use for any task. It's a great opportunity for people new
>>>> to
>>>> Aira to experience why so many use it as a must-have tool for enhancing
>>>> everyday life.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Got some mail that needs sorting? Need a professional agent to connect to
>>>> your computer to help with an inaccessible site? Or just want to research
>>>> nearby restaurants or stores? Well, now you can, as a free user and from
>>>> the
>>>> comfort of your home.
>>>> 
>>>> For all the details including a list of frequently asked questions, head
>>>> on
>>>> over to
>>>> 
>>>> https://aira.io/free-trial
>>>> 
>>>> Second, Aira has recently released a comprehensive series of training
>>>> modules available for streaming online, or for download in DAISY and MP3.
>>>> You can find it at:
>>>> 
>>>> http://aira.io/training. This is a good way to learn about Aira even if
>>>> you're not signed up yet but are curious. Because this is such a new
>>>> class
>>>> of technology, many people not only want to know how to use Aira, but how
>>>> it
>>>> might fit into their toolbox of blindness skills and apps.
>>>> 
>>>> Finally, we've just launched a podcast, called Airacast.
>>>> 
>>>> It's packed with news, interviews, tips, tricks, listener comments and
>>>> more.
>>>> 
>>>> Subscribe to Airacast now from all the places most people get their
>>>> podcasts, including iTunes/Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, Stitcher,
>>>> TuneIn and more. Spotify is coming soon, iHeart Radio in a couple of
>>>> months
>>>> and an Alexa skill will be released eventually.
>>>> 
>>>> Many people enjoy hearing podcasts through HumanWare's Victor Reader
>>>> Stream,
>>>> so of course it's listed there too.
>>>> 
>>>> Should you wish to enter the RSS feed manually into your podcast client
>>>> right away, it is:
>>>> 
>>>> https://airacast.libsyn.com/rss
>>>> 
>>>> Search for Airacast in your podcast app of choice, or Here's an Apple
>>>> podcasts link for you.
>>>> 
>>>> https://itunes.apple.com/nz/podcast/airacast-with-jonathan-mosen/id144988870
>>>> 1
>>>> 
>>>> All the best.
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan
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