Mark, while I appreciate your concerns here, I think this list should cover 
anything related to the iPhone that is of specific interest and potential 
benefitto people  who are blind. If we want to limit topics, then let’s 
eliminate articles like “The End of Apple” or other generic topics not 
blindness related. We can find those anywhere. If there is a new app that could 
benefit  a portion of our community, where else but this list will we find out 
about it?  There are tons of blindness-related listservs, podcasts and blogs, 
but who has the time? 


Sandy Finley



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> On Jan 26, 2019, at 9:16 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I see the point, but what about when they come on and advertising sales, like 
> the developer of blind square did not terribly long ago. Or KNFB Reader in 
> the past. I just think it’s hair splitting. Especially given the amount of 
> other stuff that could be deemed off-topic or irrelevant by a strict 
> moderator. I think this post got singled out, and even though I don’t care 
> about this product, I know a bunch of folks do. So whatever.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> But there's a difference between a person talking about an app they like and 
>> a corporate executive touting his company's product.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" <motte...@gmail.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> I think you were splitting hairs here. Plenty of people get on here and talk 
>> about apps that are accessible and how that benefits them. For instance, the 
>> Seeing AI app and all the uses to which they put it. So what is your problem 
>> with this? I don’t use this service, and I don’t see myself doing cell 
>> anytime soon, due to my own personal circumstances. So I have no vested 
>> interest here. But given some of the questionable articles that even you 
>> have posted, notably that nonsense from Forbes magazine, which is a 
>> miserable record when it comes to anything Apple related, I think you should 
>> either start looking at your own post a bit more or lighten up on this one. 
>> Just my two cents.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 5:31 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I see your point, Andy.  Be that as it may, any new service being offered 
>>> to our community, is always appreciated.
>>> 
>>> However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be discussed on 
>>> this list.  Any questions regarding the service, itself, to be taken 
>>> off-list, immediately.
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for observing this policy.
>>> 
>>> Moderator Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Andy Baracco
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>>> 
>>> I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James English" 
>>> <james13engl...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/26/19, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of Explorer
>>>>> communications. Since Aira has an iOS app, I thought the following info
>>>>> may
>>>>> be of interest to some.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For those not familiar with Aira, we provide real-tine audio description
>>>>> of
>>>>> anything visual, provided by security-vetted, trained professionals. You
>>>>> can
>>>>> use it with your iPhone on its own, or if you perform any tasks where
>>>>> it's
>>>>> useful to have both of your hands free, we offer optional smart glasses.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Aira app is free, and it's free to use in an increasing number of
>>>>> locations, or for an increasing number of tasks. We also offer
>>>>> subscription
>>>>> plans, much like cell phone plans, where you can use it for any task,
>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you've been curious about Aira and have wanted to take it for a spin
>>>>> in
>>>>> your own environment, we've released a free 7-Day Trial of our full paid
>>>>> service. This offer means that anyone with a free account can try anytime
>>>>> access to Aira's professional agents whenever it suits them - just like a
>>>>> paying subscriber.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The 7-Day Trial provides 30 minutes to try Aira's service over a period
>>>>> of
>>>>> seven days. Some of that time will be used for setting up account
>>>>> preferences and asking questions about the service, but the majority of
>>>>> that
>>>>> time is free to use for any task. It's a great opportunity for people new
>>>>> to
>>>>> Aira to experience why so many use it as a must-have tool for enhancing
>>>>> everyday life.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Got some mail that needs sorting? Need a professional agent to connect to
>>>>> your computer to help with an inaccessible site? Or just want to research
>>>>> nearby restaurants or stores? Well, now you can, as a free user and from
>>>>> the
>>>>> comfort of your home.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For all the details including a list of frequently asked questions, head
>>>>> on
>>>>> over to
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://aira.io/free-trial
>>>>> 
>>>>> Second, Aira has recently released a comprehensive series of training
>>>>> modules available for streaming online, or for download in DAISY and MP3.
>>>>> You can find it at:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://aira.io/training. This is a good way to learn about Aira even if
>>>>> you're not signed up yet but are curious. Because this is such a new
>>>>> class
>>>>> of technology, many people not only want to know how to use Aira, but how
>>>>> it
>>>>> might fit into their toolbox of blindness skills and apps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally, we've just launched a podcast, called Airacast.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's packed with news, interviews, tips, tricks, listener comments and
>>>>> more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subscribe to Airacast now from all the places most people get their
>>>>> podcasts, including iTunes/Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, Stitcher,
>>>>> TuneIn and more. Spotify is coming soon, iHeart Radio in a couple of
>>>>> months
>>>>> and an Alexa skill will be released eventually.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many people enjoy hearing podcasts through HumanWare's Victor Reader
>>>>> Stream,
>>>>> so of course it's listed there too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should you wish to enter the RSS feed manually into your podcast client
>>>>> right away, it is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://airacast.libsyn.com/rss
>>>>> 
>>>>> Search for Airacast in your podcast app of choice, or Here's an Apple
>>>>> podcasts link for you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://itunes.apple.com/nz/podcast/airacast-with-jonathan-mosen/id144988870
>>>>> 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the best.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> 
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