Otherwise, if we loose Richard, and you too, Sieghard - I'm out. Best regards,
Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: An Aira Update Let's hope Mark, who always struck me as rather rational and reasonable, finds it in his heart to look at this from the point of view many of us have brought forward here and that he'll invite Jonathan back. I said earlier that lists like Viphone are not a democracy, but maybe they do have democratic elements since of course everybody can express their views about a topic and I have certainly seen group owners and moderators on other lists agree with what a majority of list members want. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of James English Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An Aira Update Hi Mark, I'd just like to say that I believe that this was an incredibly short-sighted decision to take. Personally, I'm quite happy to hear about updates to apps that are useful or could be useful to me. When we're constantly wishing that app developers were more responsive, why would we then decide not to allow a responsive app developer to use the list in order to promote his product?<div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> <tr> <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; target="_blank"><img src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"; alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /></a></td> <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com</a> </td> </tr> </table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div> On 1/27/19, Lenron Brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is pretty lame that Aira was singled out like this. I personally > see nothing wrong with this post but what do I know. I’m not the > biggest fan of moderation in groups because of stuff like this. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 27, 2019, at 1:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> I agree that Aira while having come up at various times before is >> certainly not in everybody's face all the time. If you, Andy, are >> subscribe to so many lists and Podcasts where it is discussed you >> obviously have a great deal of spare time for all this. I can hardly >> keep up with the Viphone, Jaws and Windows 10 groups which I am >> subscribed to and rarely do I hear about Aira. In fact, it's on my >> list of things to do to find out more about what Aira is offering in Canada. >> I certainly did not consider Jonathan's post inappropriate in any way >> and find it regrettable that Mark apparently judged it to be so. I >> don't think in a case like Aira you can separate the app from the >> service. There are many examples on this list where services are >> discussed. People ask questions about Apple Music or Netflix and not >> always is the question strictly about the Music app or the Netflix >> app but about the service in general and I therefore wonder what >> makes Aira so different. There have been lengthy discussions here >> about the services and phone plans offered by various US cell phone >> providers where I am pretty sure Mark has participated or even >> initiated the topic and that is hardly only iPhone related. >> But of course groups like Viphone are not democracies and Mark is the >> moderator so I guess his word is the law, but it is unfortunate to >> loose any future contributions of a member as accomplished and >> well-regarded as Jonathan. >> >> Best regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Janet Bell >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:46 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: An Aira Update >> >> if you get so much information about stuff maybe you should look at >> your own subscriptions. I am glad it has been put up on this list >> because I have never heard of it and it seems like a good idea to me >> Janet >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andy Baracco >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:34 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: An Aira Update >> >> It's not that jonathan isn't welcome, it the aiRa propaganda. >> Personally, >> I'm tired of them always being in my face, i. e. Emails, podcasts, etc. >> they're not new, and I'm tired of hearing about them. >> >> Andy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Otten" <motte...@gmail.com> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 8:08 PM >> Subject: Re: An Aira Update >> >> >> I’m not Jonathan, but when the moderator of the list says that such >> posts are not welcome, what else would you expect? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> wrote: >>> >>> Jonathon! Why punish us all just because of the negative reaction >>> of a very few? >>> >>> Jewel >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmo...@mosen.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:42 PM >>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: RE: An Aira Update >>> >>> Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing >>> after >>> >>> around 9 years on the >>> group, but I want to express my disappointment about this change. >>> During Cara's excellent and even-handed leadership of this group, we >>> had >>> >>> many occasions where app >>> developers would engage with us about their apps, especially when >>> those apps were blindness specific. >>> Since this particular app was one that has come up here on multiple >>> occasions, with some mentioning it as one of their top apps of 2018, >>> it seemed appropriate, on-topic, and >>> >>> of value to interested >>> members to let them know about recent developments, especially a >>> free trial. This has been welcomed on other groups. >>> It's a difficult and false distinction to separate the app from the >>> service, when the app is the vehicle for that service. >>> Further, the service itself would in the past have been considered >>> on-topic, because one uses it on an iPhone and it is blindness >>> specific. >>> Anyway, I've learned a great deal over the last 9 years, so thanks >>> to everyone for that. >>> Should you wish to be on a group where app developers and users can >>> freely interact, you're welcome to join my BlindPhones list, which >>> covers both iOS and Android. If an app >>> >>> developer wishes to take >>> time to engage, they are welcomed with open arms. >>> blindphones+subscr...@groups.io. >>> And of course as has been already pointed out in this thread, >>> there's an >>> >>> Aira group too. >>> Thanks all. >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training >>> http://www.mosen.org >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. >>> >>> Taylor >>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:31 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: An Aira Update >>> >>> I see your point, Andy. Be that as it may, any new service being >>> offered >>> >>> to our community, is >>> always appreciated. >>> >>> However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be >>> discussed on >>> >>> this list. Any questions >>> regarding the service, itself, to be taken off-list, immediately. >>> >>> Thank you all for observing this policy. >>> >>> Moderator Mark >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Andy Baracco >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update >>> >>> I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "James English" <james13engl...@gmail.com> >>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm curious. What things can the service not be used for?<div >>>> id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table >>>> style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> <tr> >>>> <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a >>>> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; >>>> target="_blank"><img >>>> src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"; >>>> alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" >>>> /></a></td> >>>> <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; >>>> font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; >>>> line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a >>>> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"; >>>> target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com</a> </td> >>>> </tr> </table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" >>>> width="1" >>>> height="1"></a></div> >>>> >>>>> On 1/26/19, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >>>>> Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of >>>>> Explorer communications. Since Aira has an iOS app, I thought the >>>>> following info may be of interest to some. >>>>> >>>>> For those not familiar with Aira, we provide real-tine audio >>>>> description of anything visual, provided by security-vetted, >>>>> trained professionals. >>>>> You >>>>> can >>>>> use it with your iPhone on its own, or if you perform any tasks >>>>> where it's useful to have both of your hands free, we offer >>>>> optional smart glasses. >>>>> >>>>> The Aira app is free, and it's free to use in an increasing number >>>>> of locations, or for an increasing number of tasks. We also offer >>>>> subscription plans, much like cell phone plans, where you can use >>>>> it for any task, anywhere. >>>>> >>>>> If you've been curious about Aira and have wanted to take it for a >>>>> spin in your own environment, we've released a free 7-Day Trial of >>>>> our full paid service. This offer means that anyone with a free >>>>> account can try anytime access to Aira's professional agents >>>>> whenever it suits them - just like >>>>> >>>>> a >>>>> paying subscriber. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The 7-Day Trial provides 30 minutes to try Aira's service over a >>>>> period of seven days. Some of that time will be used for setting >>>>> up account preferences and asking questions about the service, but >>>>> the majority of that time is free to use for any task. It's a >>>>> great opportunity for people new to Aira to experience why so many >>>>> use it as a must-have tool for enhancing everyday life. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Got some mail that needs sorting? Need a professional agent to >>>>> connect >>>>> >>>>> to >>>>> your computer to help with an inaccessible site? Or just want to >>>>> research nearby restaurants or stores? Well, now you can, as a >>>>> free user and from the comfort of your home. >>>>> >>>>> For all the details including a list of frequently asked >>>>> questions, head on over to >>>>> >>>>> https://aira.io/free-trial >>>>> >>>>> Second, Aira has recently released a comprehensive series of >>>>> training modules available for streaming online, or for download >>>>> in DAISY and MP3. >>>>> You can find it at: >>>>> >>>>> http://aira.io/training. This is a good way to learn about Aira >>>>> even if you're not signed up yet but are curious. Because this is >>>>> such a new class of technology, many people not only want to know >>>>> how to use Aira, but how it might fit into their toolbox of >>>>> blindness skills and apps. >>>>> >>>>> Finally, we've just launched a podcast, called Airacast. >>>>> >>>>> It's packed with news, interviews, tips, tricks, listener comments >>>>> and more. >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe to Airacast now from all the places most people get >>>>> their podcasts, including iTunes/Apple Podcasts, Google Play >>>>> Music, Stitcher, TuneIn and more. Spotify is coming soon, iHeart >>>>> Radio in a couple of months and an Alexa skill will be released >>>>> eventually. >>>>> >>>>> Many people enjoy hearing podcasts through HumanWare's Victor >>>>> Reader Stream, so of course it's listed there too. >>>>> >>>>> Should you wish to enter the RSS feed manually into your podcast >>>>> client right away, it is: >>>>> >>>>> https://airacast.libsyn.com/rss >>>>> >>>>> Search for Airacast in your podcast app of choice, or Here's an >>>>> Apple podcasts link for you. >>>>> >>>>> https://itunes.apple.com/nz/podcast/airacast-with-jonathan-mosen/i >>>>> d144988870 >>>>> 1 >>>>> >>>>> All the best. >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>> iPhone list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>> the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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