Aira is not being singled out, it was an informative update, that turned into an advertisement. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenron Brown" <lenro...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update


It is pretty lame that Aira was singled out like this. I personally see nothing wrong with this post but what do I know. I’m not the biggest fan of moderation in groups because of stuff like this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2019, at 1:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

I agree that Aira while having come up at various times before is certainly not in everybody's face all the time. If you, Andy, are subscribe to so many lists and Podcasts where it is discussed you obviously have a great deal of spare time for all this. I can hardly keep up with the Viphone, Jaws and Windows 10 groups which I am subscribed to and rarely do I hear about Aira. In fact, it's on my list of things to do to find out more about what Aira is offering in Canada. I certainly did not consider Jonathan's post inappropriate in any way and find it regrettable that Mark apparently judged it to be so. I don't think in a case like Aira you can separate the app from the service. There are many examples on this list where services are discussed. People ask questions about Apple Music or Netflix and not always is the question strictly about the Music app or the Netflix app but about the service in general and I therefore wonder what makes Aira so different. There have been lengthy discussions here about the services and phone plans offered by various US cell phone providers where I am pretty sure Mark has participated or even initiated the topic and that is hardly only iPhone related. But of course groups like Viphone are not democracies and Mark is the moderator so I guess his word is the law, but it is unfortunate to loose any future contributions of a member as accomplished and well-regarded as Jonathan.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Janet Bell
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

if you get so much information about stuff maybe you should look at your own
subscriptions.  I am glad it has been put up on this list because I have
never heard of it and it seems like a good idea to me  Janet

-----Original Message----- From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

It's not that jonathan isn't welcome, it the aiRa propaganda.  Personally,
I'm tired of them always being in my face, i. e. Emails, podcasts, etc.
they're not new, and I'm tired of hearing about them.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" <motte...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update


I’m not Jonathan, but when the moderator of the list says that such posts
are not welcome, what else would you expect?
Mary


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On Jan 26, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> wrote:

Jonathon!  Why punish us all just because of the negative reaction of a
very few?

    Jewel

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From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmo...@mosen.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:42 PM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: An Aira Update

Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing after
around 9 years on the
group, but I want to express my disappointment about this change.
During Cara's excellent and even-handed leadership of this group, we had
many occasions where app
developers would engage with us about their apps, especially when those
apps were blindness
specific.
Since this particular app was one that has come up here on multiple
occasions, with some mentioning
it as one of their top apps of 2018, it seemed appropriate, on-topic, and
of value to interested
members to let them know about recent developments, especially a free
trial. This has been welcomed
on other groups.
It's a difficult and false distinction to separate the app from the
service, when the app is the
vehicle for that service.
Further, the service itself would in the past have been considered
on-topic, because one uses it on
an iPhone and it is blindness specific.
Anyway, I've learned a great deal over the last 9 years, so thanks to
everyone for that.
Should you wish to be on a group where app developers and users can freely
interact, you're welcome
to join my BlindPhones list, which covers both iOS and Android. If an app
developer wishes to take
time to engage, they are welcomed with open arms.
blindphones+subscr...@groups.io.
And of course as has been already pointed out in this thread, there's an
Aira group too.
Thanks all.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training
http://www.mosen.org

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M.
Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update

I see your point, Andy.  Be that as it may, any new service being offered
to our community, is
always appreciated.

However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be discussed on
this list.  Any questions
regarding the service, itself, to be taken off-list, immediately.

Thank you all for observing this policy.

Moderator Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "James English" <james13engl...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update


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On 1/26/19, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of Explorer
communications. Since Aira has an iOS app, I thought the following info
may
be of interest to some.

For those not familiar with Aira, we provide real-tine audio description
of
anything visual, provided by security-vetted, trained professionals. You
can
use it with your iPhone on its own, or if you perform any tasks where
it's
useful to have both of your hands free, we offer optional smart glasses.

The Aira app is free, and it's free to use in an increasing number of
locations, or for an increasing number of tasks. We also offer
subscription
plans, much like cell phone plans, where you can use it for any task,
anywhere.

If you've been curious about Aira and have wanted to take it for a spin
in
your own environment, we've released a free 7-Day Trial of our full paid
service. This offer means that anyone with a free account can try
anytime
access to Aira's professional agents whenever it suits them - just like
a
paying subscriber.



The 7-Day Trial provides 30 minutes to try Aira's service over a period
of
seven days. Some of that time will be used for setting up account
preferences and asking questions about the service, but the majority of
that
time is free to use for any task. It's a great opportunity for people
new
to
Aira to experience why so many use it as a must-have tool for enhancing
everyday life.



Got some mail that needs sorting? Need a professional agent to connect
to
your computer to help with an inaccessible site? Or just want to
research
nearby restaurants or stores? Well, now you can, as a free user and from
the
comfort of your home.

For all the details including a list of frequently asked questions, head
on
over to

https://aira.io/free-trial

Second, Aira has recently released a comprehensive series of training
modules available for streaming online, or for download in DAISY and
MP3.
You can find it at:

http://aira.io/training. This is a good way to learn about Aira even if
you're not signed up yet but are curious. Because this is such a new
class
of technology, many people not only want to know how to use Aira, but
how
it
might fit into their toolbox of blindness skills and apps.

Finally, we've just launched a podcast, called Airacast.

It's packed with news, interviews, tips, tricks, listener comments and
more.

Subscribe to Airacast now from all the places most people get their
podcasts, including iTunes/Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, Stitcher,
TuneIn and more. Spotify is coming soon, iHeart Radio in a couple of
months
and an Alexa skill will be released eventually.

Many people enjoy hearing podcasts through HumanWare's Victor Reader
Stream,
so of course it's listed there too.

Should you wish to enter the RSS feed manually into your podcast client
right away, it is:

https://airacast.libsyn.com/rss

Search for Airacast in your podcast app of choice, or Here's an Apple
podcasts link for you.

https://itunes.apple.com/nz/podcast/airacast-with-jonathan-mosen/id144988870
1

All the best.

Jonathan

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