And, I had an Android tablet. I liked a lot of stuff about it, but found the 
keyboard clumsy, never got good at it, am way, way better with on-screen with 
my iPhone. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: addendum to the theme question

Lol. I'd actually love to be able to say with certainty, that Android and Linux 
are wonderful platforms for the blind. I've used both for at least half  a 
year. I just don't subscribe to the notion that we should have to work around 
every little inaccessible app made by Google, and use another desktop on Linux 
because KDE is barely accessible now, and Gnome has a huge accessibility 
problem, that you cannot change settings in the settings center. Imagine having 
those problems on Apple products, mail, messages, TTS, and the keyboard being 
inferior on iOS. Sure, third-party options, even Eloquence, but I love the fact 
about Apple devices, that you can get along very well without even having to 
buy that $13 onscreen braille keyboard on Android.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2019, at 11:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:



        There’s got to be a party pooper in every crowd, what I wonder is why 
Devon is even on this list since he seems to be included in the “we Android 
users”, oh right, his signature is “Sent from my iPhone”.

         

        From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
        Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 11:58 AM
        To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; Devin 
Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> >
        Subject: Re: addendum to the theme question

         

        It's a shame this thread couldn't just be about everything that's good 
about the iPhone but has to be used by some to bash anything not Apple. I can 
certainly give Apple the credit it's do without bashing Microsoft, Google and 
Linux. I guess some also just don't realize that when you trash a product you 
don't choose to use yourself you're also putting down all of those people who 
didn't make the same choice you did.

         

         

        On 5/26/19 1:48 PM, Devin Prater wrote:

                Gosh yes! And Android users have to pay like $12 for a braille 
keyboard that is maintained and kept up to date... for now... lol. We get all 
these, the vocalizer voices, and Apple's *high quality* Siri voices, all free!

                 

                Sent from my iPhone

                
                On May 26, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan 
<pau...@roadrunner.com <mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

                        One thing I completely forgot to mention in my earlier 
post is that there are so many ways of inputting information into the phone, 
sending texts or sending emails.  One can use hand writing although since I’m 
totally blind I don’t use that feature, still it’s available for those who 
might want to use it.  In adition, MBraille and the native Braille screen 
input, dictation, the onscreen keyboard and using a separate Braille or quarty 
keyboard are all available.  It’s so very cool that apple provides options for 
all of these methods. 

                        God bless!

                        Paula and Garçon 

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