Thanks for putting this just as I was thinking. I don’t understand why so many long irritating threads are devoted to putting down the “other guy”. In addition it was not meant as a chance to tell us how we could have had this freedom via a different method, i.e. a PC.
From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 8:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: addendum to the theme question My point isn't that other platforms don't have their issues, but rather that this thread was supposed to be about how beneficial Apple devices have been to people since their introduction. I saw this as a feel good thread where people could share their experiences on the greater independence they now have due to the iPhone and related apps and services. I didn't see this as an opportunity to knock every other platform out there. I use Windows, IOS, Linux and Android, and although I know the limitations of the various platforms, I don't go out of my way to find opportunities to knock each platform. As I said below, I can appreciate everything Apple has done and the iPhone has done for me without tearing down every other platform out there. On 5/27/19 5:56 AM, Devin Prater wrote: Lol. I'd actually love to be able to say with certainty, that Android and Linux are wonderful platforms for the blind. I've used both for at least half a year. I just don't subscribe to the notion that we should have to work around every little inaccessible app made by Google, and use another desktop on Linux because KDE is barely accessible now, and Gnome has a huge accessibility problem, that you cannot change settings in the settings center. Imagine having those problems on Apple products, mail, messages, TTS, and the keyboard being inferior on iOS. Sure, third-party options, even Eloquence, but I love the fact about Apple devices, that you can get along very well without even having to buy that $13 onscreen braille keyboard on Android. Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2019, at 11:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: There’s got to be a party pooper in every crowd, what I wonder is why Devon is even on this list since he seems to be included in the “we Android users”, oh right, his signature is “Sent from my iPhone”. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 11:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: addendum to the theme question It's a shame this thread couldn't just be about everything that's good about the iPhone but has to be used by some to bash anything not Apple. I can certainly give Apple the credit it's do without bashing Microsoft, Google and Linux. I guess some also just don't realize that when you trash a product you don't choose to use yourself you're also putting down all of those people who didn't make the same choice you did. On 5/26/19 1:48 PM, Devin Prater wrote: Gosh yes! And Android users have to pay like $12 for a braille keyboard that is maintained and kept up to date... for now... lol. We get all these, the vocalizer voices, and Apple's *high quality* Siri voices, all free! Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan <pau...@roadrunner.com> wrote: One thing I completely forgot to mention in my earlier post is that there are so many ways of inputting information into the phone, sending texts or sending emails. One can use hand writing although since I’m totally blind I don’t use that feature, still it’s available for those who might want to use it. In adition, MBraille and the native Braille screen input, dictation, the onscreen keyboard and using a separate Braille or quarty keyboard are all available. It’s so very cool that apple provides options for all of these methods. God bless! 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