My husband struggles if VoiceOver is on, even though he knows what I have to do, thinks it is so hard. He is really good with electronic devices, taught electronics in community college years ago and also was a graphic designer. My cousin warns me not to fool myself, that a young person could take my phone and run with the thing.
Best regards, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 1:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list I am sure a sighted person can Google this and learn the gesture to turn off screen curtain, but I would say 8 or 9 out of 10 sighted people have no idea that they have to tap the screen 3 times with 3 fingers to turn it off, most can hardly activate a button with a double tap, I have observed this a lot when I give my phone to a sighted person say to take a picture, they tap the camera button and then tap it again and again and they have no clue why it doesn't take a picture until I tell them they have to tap it twice quickly. Of course if they know that all they have to do is activate SIRI and ask to turn off Voiceover then off goes the screen curtain as well. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 6:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list Carolyn, Sighted people can and will turn off the Screen Curtain Just like you or I would, and if you don't believe this, you're kidding yourself, and you're too smart to fall for this. Janet -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 7:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list My cousin says what you are saying too. How could they turn off Screen Curtain? They haven't a clue, and there is nothing to see. Best regards, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 8:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list Carolyn, Trust me, if a sighted person knows anything about the iPhones they can very easily turn off the Screen Curtain, and they can most definitely find settings, as this seems to be one of the first things blind or sighted people learn about is the settings app. Janet -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 7:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list My husband gets so mixed up about touching icon, then double tapping. Then with Screen Curtain on to - forget it. A sighted person is completely blind, can't do anything with it at all, can't see how to get to settings. Best regards, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 8:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list HI Carolyn, Just out of curiosity, Why would a sighted person not be able to use an iPhone if Voiceover is on? This is interesting! Janet -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 5:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how do I unsub from this list Josh, I did not put a password in my iPhone. If you can get it off, keep screen curtain on, and with VoiceOver on, my husband says a sighted person could not use the thing, if they got it. I am so sorry that it is such a disappointment to you. Best regards, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 11:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: how do I unsub from this list Hi to all. How do I unsubscribe from this list. I never should have gotten an iPhone in the first place. I don't want to take the time to learn how to type on the stupid keyboard on the screen. I hate the idea of having to type in my apple ID when I want to download an app. Stupid security. My flip phone was so much easier. I could just turn it on and it would power up and away I would go. No having to type in my stupid pass code to unlock my phone. I never should have let that article I read about seeing AI influence my decision to get an iPhone. On Monday I'm contacting apple to see about getting it returned and most of my money back. With apple care and the cost of my phone, I spent almost $1000. 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