Hello Sieghard,

Of course I know that there is a difference between 2-step and 2-factor 
authentication.  However, the method for adding / removing trusted phone 
numbers to / from one’s account is the same regardless of the verification 
method; hence the article that I posted for Regina.

Mark




> On Aug 4, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> In your one message you write about 2-factor authentication and in your 
> message to Reggie you write about 2-step verification. You do know these are 
> two different animals? They may both belong to the Apple species, but 2-step 
> verification is an older method which works on older devices and which Apple 
> does not recommend for newer devices which run I think iOS 10 or later.
> I am also not understanding why there is so much complaining about increased 
> security. I have 2-factor authentication turned on for most services and 
> websites I use and where it is offered, e.g. my Microsoft accounts, Google, 
> Dropbox etc. For services which can use an authenticator app I use Microsoft 
> Authenticator, Google and Apple do sort of their own thing and Roboform, my 
> password manager, still uses email or text messages to send the code. One 
> should also note that with Apple you really only have to use 2-factor 
> authentication on a device or a web browser once, during that initial 
> verification you can specify that this is a trusted device or browser and 
> that's that for the future. I think often it's just a matter where people 
> should spend a bit of time reading up on how exactly it works in order to 
> understand this better.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 5:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?
> 
> Hello Regina,
> 
> About two-step verification and SMS - Apple Support
> 
> 
> About two-step verification and SMS
> 
> Learn how SMS works with two-step verification for your Apple ID.
> 
> When you set up two-step verification for your Apple ID, you must provide at 
> least one SMS-capable phone number to receive temporary verification codes 
> from Apple. You'll use these codes to verify your identity and help keep your 
> account secure.
> 
> The text messages that provide verification codes are free of charge. If 
> you're not connected to your carrier's network when you receive the message, 
> your carrier may charge you for roaming.
> 
> Add or remove an SMS number
> 
> 1.
> Sign in to your Apple ID account page, located at:
> https://appleid.apple.com/account/home.
> 
> 2.
> In the Security section, click Edit.
> 
> 3.
> Click Add a Trusted Phone number.
> 
> 4.
> To add a number, enter the phone number and verify it with a text.
> 
> 5.
> To remove a number, click  next to the phone number you want to remove.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202656
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> regina alvarado
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2019 4:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?
> 
> 
> Hi, where can you access your two-factor verification in settings. I want to 
> add to my numbers, thank you Mark. I have forgotten how I accessed this. 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Aug 3, 2019, at 5:45 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Chris,
> 
> Your comments don’t make sense to me.
> 
> First, in order to setup 2-factor authentication, you must also add at least 
> 1 rescue SMS phone number contact to your profile.
> 
> Second, when you are required to verify your account, in the same prompt, the 
> dialog box includes a link that says something like, didn’t get code?  If you 
> click on that link, then the code is sent to your SMS number.  Once this is 
> done, you need only open the text message and, more often than not, the code 
> will be automatically entered into the required field, for you.
> 
> By the way, you can have as many rescue SMS numbers associated with your 
> 2-factor authentication profile, as you like.
> 
> In my case, for example, i have 3 telephone numbers in my profile.  I can 
> have the verification code sent to any of them at any time.  This eliminates 
> the need to cary multiple Apple devices at all times.
> 
> I’m not suggesting that 2-factor authentication is perfect but I am arguing 
> that it is a necessary evil in a world were thieves live and breathe to rob 
> us of our identity.  Also, I prefer 2-factor on Apple to that of Google’s 
> system, by far-and-away.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2019, at 9:51 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It is beyond annoying.  It is illogical.  The other day I was trying to buy 
>> an app on my iPhone, however, the app store sent a verification code to my 
>> iPad.  The problem is that I was fifty miles away from my home and I left 
>> the iPad at home.  Does apple think if you have two apple devices you have 
>> to carry the two of them with you all the time? I can’t understand this 
>> logic.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Cris
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jim 
>> Fettgather
>> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 11:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?
>> 
>> I accidentally turned on two factor authentication while setting up a New 
>> Mac computer, and have regretted it ever since.
>> I do not think there is a way to turn it off, I find it highly annoying!
>> 
>> 
>> From: Alex Stone
>> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 5:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you8u turn off two factor authentication?
>> 
>> Unfortunately I don’t think you can. I tried to do this a couple of months 
>> ago. It looks to me like, once its on youre stuck with it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Aug 2019, at 23:21, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Hello folks,
>> Does anyone know how to turn off the two factor authentication?  I tried to 
>> do that from the iPhone settings and I was not able to do that.  I also 
>> logged on to the AppleId site on my desktop and I could not find any check 
>> boxes or drop down menus to turn it off.  It shows under security as turned 
>> on, but it does not give me any choices to turn it off.  Does anyone know 
>> how to do that?
>> 
>> I appreciate any help.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Cris
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