Scott,

I have not yet been able to figure out any patterns yet. I managed to make it 
lose VO again by having my braille display connected when I did the power home 
reboot. The most annoying thing is that the rotors are both set back to factory 
defaults each time VO is switched off. Also, triple-click home is deactivated, 
so iTunes is necessary for restarting VO on the iPhone.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 10/10/2012, at 0:27, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> David,
> 
> I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than maybe a 
> couple of times, yet I have not encountered this issue. So, is there any 
> particular pattern to reproducing the problem? FOr example, rebooting 
> repeatedly (within a period of time) such as maybe every five minutes for 10 
> times etc.? Perhaps rebooting the phone more than once a week? Also, is there 
> any particular app that has caused the condition which necessitated a reboot? 
> I am curious if there is in fact some pattern or application that may be the 
> cause for the loss of speech etc. when the phone is rebooted using this 
> technique.
> 
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:27 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have now lost VO one time using this technique out of seven times I have 
>> used the technique on my iPhone 5. In addition to losing VO, my braille 
>> display would not connect after I started VO with iTunes. Also, VO was set 
>> to factory defaults. I had to do another power home reboot before the 
>> braille display drivers would load properly again. This is a fascinating 
>> little bug.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 09/10/2012, at 22:09, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have to agree I have not lost VO as a result of using this reset 
>>> technique.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Katey Glass <katey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the iPhone 
>>>> and iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever.  Maybe reset is not the 
>>>> proper phrase as we are not technically resetting any settings, but rather 
>>>> just clearing out memory "cobwebs" on the phone or pad.  
>>>> 
>>>> At any rate, I have indeed held both power button and home button and 
>>>> waited 10 seconds an d the device comes back talking.  
>>>> 
>>>> Katey 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, "Kathy Blackburn" <kblac...@austin.rr.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I wrote to accessibil...@apple.com and was told that the hard re-set, 
>>>>> holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons at the same time, does 
>>>>> indeed result in loss of VoiceOver and does so by design. In order to get 
>>>>> VoiceOver back, you must either get sighted help or connect the phone to 
>>>>> a computer and re-enable VoiceOver using iTunes. Moral of story: power 
>>>>> off only by holding down sleep/wake until the slider appears and then 
>>>>> double-tap.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kathy Blackburn
>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.com 
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