Yes, I was attempting to create the reported problem. Now that I have, I will re upgrade my iPhone 5 to reset it to factory values.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10/10/2012, at 10:59, Grant Hardy <grantha...@gmail.com> wrote: > David, > > That is very bizarre indeed and certainly shouldn't be happening by > design. Sounds like a bug that should be reported to Apple > accessibility. Do you ever lose VoiceOver when rebooting your phone > normally? > > Also, not to get into a whole debate about resets and crashes again, > but I don't know that this procedure should be carried out on a daily > basis. Yes it's officially condoned by Apple, but only if powering off > and on the phone isn't working normally. It may not "crash" the phone > but it's certainly a "safety mechanism" that isn't meant to be used > unless normal operation of the phone isn't working. > > Grant > > On 10/9/12, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Scott, >> >> I have not yet been able to figure out any patterns yet. I managed to make >> it lose VO again by having my braille display connected when I did the power >> home reboot. The most annoying thing is that the rotors are both set back to >> factory defaults each time VO is switched off. Also, triple-click home is >> deactivated, so iTunes is necessary for restarting VO on the iPhone. >> >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 10/10/2012, at 0:27, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> David, >>> >>> I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than maybe >>> a couple of times, yet I have not encountered this issue. So, is there any >>> particular pattern to reproducing the problem? FOr example, rebooting >>> repeatedly (within a period of time) such as maybe every five minutes for >>> 10 times etc.? Perhaps rebooting the phone more than once a week? Also, is >>> there any particular app that has caused the condition which necessitated >>> a reboot? I am curious if there is in fact some pattern or application >>> that may be the cause for the loss of speech etc. when the phone is >>> rebooted using this technique. >>> >>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:27 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have now lost VO one time using this technique out of seven times I >>>> have used the technique on my iPhone 5. In addition to losing VO, my >>>> braille display would not connect after I started VO with iTunes. Also, >>>> VO was set to factory defaults. I had to do another power home reboot >>>> before the braille display drivers would load properly again. This is a >>>> fascinating little bug. >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 09/10/2012, at 22:09, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have to agree I have not lost VO as a result of using this reset >>>>> technique. >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Katey Glass <katey...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the >>>>>> iPhone and iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever. Maybe reset is >>>>>> not the proper phrase as we are not technically resetting any settings, >>>>>> but rather just clearing out memory "cobwebs" on the phone or pad. >>>>>> >>>>>> At any rate, I have indeed held both power button and home button and >>>>>> waited 10 seconds an d the device comes back talking. >>>>>> >>>>>> Katey >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, "Kathy Blackburn" <kblac...@austin.rr.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I wrote to accessibil...@apple.com and was told that the hard re-set, >>>>>>> holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons at the same time, does >>>>>>> indeed result in loss of VoiceOver and does so by design. In order to >>>>>>> get VoiceOver back, you must either get sighted help or connect the >>>>>>> phone to a computer and re-enable VoiceOver using iTunes. Moral of >>>>>>> story: power off only by holding down sleep/wake until the slider >>>>>>> appears and then double-tap. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kathy Blackburn >>>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.com >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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