But most people have the small paperclips around and it works perfectly fine.


Richard

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-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone

The sim removal tools are 5 bucks for like 10 or 20 I believe.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 3:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked iPhone

You can purchase a bag of sim tools from amazon. They cost next to nothing.

Dave.


-----Original Message-----
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2020 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone

Or find a paper clip and use that,

I've lost so many of the sim removal tools but I can always find a paper clip 
somewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 2 March 2020 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone

Each new iPhone comes with a little wire gadget which is meant for popping out 
the SIM tray.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 7:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked iPhone

We do know what you mean, and if not now possibly in the future.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 7:18 AM
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone


Thanks. That makes sense.

One reason I wanted to know is if I ever decided to get another phone that I
might also want to use. I know, probably that doesn't make sense to some
people, but I know you get it, Wayne and Arlene.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arlene
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 9:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked iPhone

Carolyn, the first thing, take your phone out of the case.
2. locate a very tiny whole on the side of the phone. I don't know where it
would be on the i11, however for an example, the iphone se sim card would be
on the right edge as you're facing the phone. You'll need a paper clip to
pop the tray with the sim card out. The paper clip, That's my preferred tool
since it works well.note: the tray and the sim card both, are very tiny, so
if you do happen to pop your sim card out I recomend doing it over
something, so it won't get lost. if you have any questions just ask and good
luck.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone


Where is it that you insert the SIM card. I wish I'd have thought to ask Ray
at Wal-Mart, when I got my phone. I guess you have to take the case off the
phone to get to it?

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked iPhone

I agree I had this  SE on Cricket which is an off shoot of at&t  it about 3
to 5 minutes for it to recognize the Verizon sim and  work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Nimer
Jaber
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 3:47 AM
To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone



Hello,



Sometimes, it takes a bit of time for the IMEI to show up as unlocked after
it has been locked. It is worth sticking a sim in and seeing what happens if
you have followed the process and are unlocked.



=Thanks.



On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:56 PM kitty hevener <kheve...@earthlink.net
<mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Dennis, Was your phone an at&t?  After getting the note from at&t saying
they approved unlock of my phone and gave instructions as to how to proceed
with another carrier, Verizon tells me the phone is still locked.  They also
tell me that if they were to put a new sim card in my "new" SE, that it
could cause me to have no service at all.  I couldn't take the risk of
loosing cell service altogether.  But, can someone help me understand their
logic?  I am truly lost.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

I am using an SE on Verizon and I didn't purchase it from Verizon

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
kitty hevener
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone

Christopher thanks for sharing.  I wonder what the author's credentials are
for writing the article.  After the second attempt, at&t unlocked my phone.
While the article makes me think I may be in luck that my phone will work on
Verizon, apparently the only way to know for sure is yet one more trip to
the store.  I am sooo hoping for a happy ending smile!!

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; Richard
Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> >
Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone

I'm not speaking from personal experience, but this is true for the SE,
except for SE's from Sprint. You also need to pay attention to the bands
supported by your phone. Here's everything you ever wanted to know about
moving your SE from carrier to carrier
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whistleout.com%2FCellPhones%2FGuides%2FWill-my-iPhone-SE-work-on-another-carrier&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb147d1f7e1dc4b0c33e508d7beb15fe4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637187541334182351&amp;sdata=D3eyXl5%2Ff5pF3OZYrFcUuR%2B5RcFrUUrbRIY%2FufPXy64%3D&amp;reserved=0




On 2/27/20 8:32 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Well, I did not know this about newer phones, but I am doubtful the SE is
> in that category.
> If you call Verizon and ask them if you get AT&T to unlock the phone; can
> you use it on their network, then you'll know for sure.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> kitty hevener
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 6:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone
>
> Is that true for the Iphone SE?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 5:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; Simon A
> Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >
> Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone
>
> since the US carriers have moved to 4G LTE and are now moving to 5G, there
> is no need to choose between GSM and CDMA.
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.androidauthority.com%2Fgsm-vs-cdma-689328%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb147d1f7e1dc4b0c33e508d7beb15fe4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637187541334192348&amp;sdata=hNOYAQ9zAdWKjIe1wYsiB0rUf0NQAhaAgm0IWur%2Fmac%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
>
> On 2/27/20 2:54 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>   From memory the last few years iPhone releasesare both CDMA and gsm
>>
>> Hence Verizon can use a or could use iPhones without sim cards
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>> Of kitty hevener
>> Sent: Thursday, 27 February 2020 6:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone
>>
>> Richard, per your suggestion, I contacted apple accessibility and have
>> learned that the phone is at&t.  The apple person led me to believe I
>> could use a Gsm onCDMA.  Hmm, wonder if an apple store could do whatever
>> needs to be done to make it work on cdma, if at&t unlocks it.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone
>>
>> I'm not Mark, but GSM phones cannot be used with Verizon or Sprint who
>> use CDMA.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." -- an anonymous cat
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2020, at 8:47 PM, kitty hevener <kheve...@earthlink.net
>>> <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark, hope I am not making an issue more complicated that it needs to
>>> be.  If I understand right, at&t uses gsm technology.  So, if u get your
>>> at&t phone unlocked, will you then only be able to use it with other
>>> carriers that use gsm?  You would not be able to use that unlocked at&t
>>> phone with gsm technology on Verizon or another carrier who used CDEMA,
>>> right?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On
>>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone
>>>
>>> Hello Carolyn,
>>>
>>> You will need to submit an unlock request to A T & T at the end of your
>>> contract as they will not automatically unlock the device.
>>>
>>> Speaking from personal experience, A T & T is absolutely wonderful when
>>> it comes to unlocking devices.  I have unlocked many, many A T & T
>>> phones over the years and, in most cases, the unlock code is provided
>>> within 10 to 30 minutes of submitting the unlock request.
>>>
>>> When you are ready to unlock you’re a T & T device, you may submit the
>>> unlock request using the form located at the following URL:
>>>
>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.att.com%2Fdeviceunlock%2F%23%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb147d1f7e1dc4b0c33e508d7beb15fe4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637187541334192348&amp;sdata=s1C1loMNPsd33VYKVpBdfkQ5fRhglhPG3HAYNFEQz9k%3D&amp;reserved=0.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On
>>> Behalf Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 4:48 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone
>>>
>>> Question about locked phones. I bought a phone and am on a 30-month AT&T
>>> contract. I know, a lot of people don't like those contracts, but this
>>> seemed like a good deal. I can be patient, know it won't last forever.
>>> So my question is, will my phone be locked with AT&T in 31 months, when
>>> I might want to return to Consumer Cellular? Or I eventually might want
>>> to sell my phone?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On
>>> Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 1:06 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone
>>>
>>> No kidding. If you can, return the phone and get your money back.
>>> I've bought iPhones on buy/sell mailing lists and eBay and have always
>>> had good luck. I always make sure that the description states that it's
>>> unlocked or have the seller provide me with the IMEI so I can check
>>> compatibility/status on my carrier. If eBay, I can usually tell by the
>>> feedback and what else the seller has posted if it's an individual
>>> seller or it's someone who flips phones. A professional flipper is not
>>> going to burn themselves over one sale, so I'm less concerned about
>>> that.
>>> Small consolation now I know, but just something to keep in mind for the
>>> future.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cristóbal
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:45 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone
>>>
>>> Carriers to my knowledge are legally obligated to unlock a phone if it
>>> is no longer under contract and you should be able to find out which
>>> carrier has to do it.
>>> Here in Canada carriers can no longer sell phones locked to them, all
>>> phones have to be unlocked I think since December 1, 2018. This means of
>>> course you still find locked phones which people sell and which were
>>> locked before, but since then all new phones have to be unlocked.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>>> Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:29 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone
>>>
>>> And, if Verizon can't make it work, I would have doubts that anyone
>>> could. At our Verizon store, the guys down there seem to live to do
>>> stuff with phones to get them going just right.
>>>
>>> When I had Verizon, they had a division of Customer Service for special
>>> problems, and the guy there helped me and Jim with a phone some years
>>> back.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 7:17 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: unlocking a locked Iphone
>>>
>>> The seller obviously lied, I would never buy a used iPhone online and
>>> unseen unless maybe on a list like this where I sort of know the person
>>> who is selling it has been around and even then I have heard stories
>>> where people sell stuff which is not at all as advertised or disappear
>>> with the money. Caveat emptor is very much in order here.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:25 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: unlocking a locked Iphone
>>>
>>> I'd call Apple and see if they can tell from the the serial number,
>>> which they can get if they do a screen share with you.
>>> Otherwise you will have to find out what the carrier was, and possibly
>>> get the seller to give their permission to have it unlocked.
>>> Sadly, it could be that the seller simply lied.
>>> But, call Apple Accessibility: 877-204-3930 and see what they can sort
>>> out.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that." -- an anonymous cat
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE
>>>
>>>> On Feb 25, 2020, at 9:11 PM, kitty hevener <kheve...@earthlink.net
>>>> <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I purchased an Iphone that was advertised as unlocked.  Seller
>>>> assured me it would work with my carrier, Verizon.  Sadly, Verizon
>>>> informed me that the phone was locked and they said it could only
>>>> be unlocked by carrier was using.
>>>> Does anyone know of any workaround for getting it unlocked?  Thanks.
>>>>
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