Hey Andy, I can believe it. When you live in a society whose mantra is money money money, not people first, profit second, this is the result.
Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote: > > > Today I attempted to obtain cleaning supplies from two local stores and found > the aisles cleaned out. No masks either, even though we are required to wear > them in public. Today a scarf wrapped around my head had to suffice. > > I can't believe how unprepared this country has been for this crisis. > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robin Frost > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer > > Hi, > > I'm on the opposite coast of the USA from Mary and I can report the same > here. No paper products, no cleaning supplies, no alcohol, no hand sanitizer > and no over the counter cold or allergy medicines to be had. > > Wishing all on this list are well and can get that which they need with more > ease than some of us are encountering. > > Take good care. > > Robin > > > >> On 4/12/2020 1:31 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Well, my husband was out today to the store, actually two of them, and there >> were no cleaning supplies to be had. No alcohol. And online, Knogo. I don’t >> know who’s buying all this alcohol. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Mary, >>> If you get yours back you should just wash it with warm water and soap, >>> then let it sit for 3 or 4 days and there won’t be any danger COVID-19 is >>> still live on it. >>> Can you really not get pharmaceutical grade alcohol? For a while alcohol >>> based hand sanitizer here was scarce and the gel type still seems to be, >>> but our local sanitary supply business now had liquid hand sanitizer in >>> little spray bottles and 4 L (just over 1 Gallon) refills, I bought one of >>> those for my store and that should last for a while. >>> Best regards, >>> Sieghard >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary >>> Otten >>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:10 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer >>> Thanks for the info. I’m definitely keeping the information about the >>> Thermo. Not going to help me now. I guess I can just hope I don’t get the >>> bloody thing. Or if I can actually find rubbing alcohol, I would at least >>> have something to disinfect mine when it comes back. >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Well, you learn something every day. >>> I’ve not heard of any that talk, but a quick check at Amazon got quite a >>> few ranging in price from $60ish to over $200. >>> https://www.amazon.com/fda-approved-thermometer/s?k=fda+approved+thermometer >>> Richard >>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, >>> Oregon. >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> terrie...@twc.com >>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:51 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer >>> The kind of thermometer that does not touch the skin – forehead >>> thermometers that are held very slightly away from the forehead and scanned >>> across it. >>> Thanks for all of this timely conversation about Bluetooth thermometers. >>> Terrie >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Richard Turner >>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:40 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer >>> I'm not sure what you mean by noncontact. >>> But, anyone looking for a thermometer right now is just going to have to >>> keep looking until they find a supplier that still has some. >>> Richard >>> (Sent from my iPhone SE) >>> C >>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:37 AM, "terrie...@twc.com" <terrie...@twc.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer that is noncontact, that >>> works with the iPhone, and that is available at this point? >>> Terrie >>> Terlau >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:01 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer >>> Definitely not the time to share an under-the-tongue thermometer these days >>> if multiple people in your household are using it. I guess you could >>> disinfect it each time somebody used it, but the contactless thermometers >>> are definitely a better option right now and probably even if there weren’t >>> a COVID-19 virus, after all, if you think you have a fever you probably >>> want to avoid giving whatever causes it to anybody else. Of course that is >>> not an issue if you are only 1 person who uses it. >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Richard Turner >>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:58 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer >>> Good to know. >>> The Kinsa is an under the tongue thermometer. At least, the older model I >>> have is and I’m pretty sure the Bluetooth one is as well. >>> I’ll keep this info for reference though. Sounds excellent. >>> Richard >>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, >>> Oregon. >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:53 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer >>> There is also the “Thermo” from Nokia Health formerly Withings. >>> Below are links, first to the Withings website directly, then to the >>> Canadian Apple, Amazon and Best Buy, after that the US Apple Store, Amazon, >>> Best Buy and Walmart. Finally I put the links for the Thermo app on both >>> the Canadian and US App Stores. The only problem is that it seems you are >>> not going to be able to find one since they show as sold out everywhere or, >>> in the case of Amazon, as “currently unavailable”, I guess that is probably >>> a result of COVID-19. >>> I haven’t checked, but that may very well be the case for the Kinsa >>> thermometer as well. >>> The Thermo, by the way, connects via WiFi, not Bluetooth. we have had ours >>> for probably 3 years or a bit longer and I hadn’t used it until recently >>> for about 2 years because just before Christmas 2017 was the only and last >>> time I was sick with the flu and a fever in probably 10 years. >>> I did use it a bit more often recently just checking myself since I do have >>> a retail store and am out in public every day. I realized I hadn’t even >>> connected it yet to my iPhone 8 which I got a year and a half ago, but as >>> before the connection was easy and quick and after signing in to the app >>> with my user name and password my wife’s and my own profiles showed up and >>> I could still see the measurements I took back in 2017. >>> The Thermo also has a display where a sighted person can instantly read the >>> result, otherwise you can get the result inside the app about 15 or so >>> seconds after the reading is complete. >>> There is one single button. You press it once and the thermometer makes a >>> small vibration which means it’s ready. You have to be a little bit quick >>> and have it ready pointing to the middle of your forehead about half an >>> inch or so away from your skin since the measuring starts right away after >>> the vibration and only lasts for about 4 or 5 seconds. >>> It reads the temperature contactless, as soon as it vibrates you smoothly >>> move it from the middle of your forehead to your temple and stop there, the >>> Thermo will vibrate twice to indicate it has finished the reading. >>> After you do this a few times you quickly get the hang of how fast you have >>> to move it across your forehead so you get to your temple just before the >>> second double vibration. >>> Even if you take a reading without the Thermo app open you soon get a >>> notification that a new temperature reading is available, if you double tap >>> on that notification the app opens and shows the profiles you have set up. >>> In our case it shows “Me” which is me and it shows “Jackie” which is my >>> wife. Above that it then shows an unassigned reading, if you double tap on >>> that Voiceover reads out the date, time and the temperature and you can >>> then double tap on whichever profile you want to assign that reading to. >>> It’s very accessible, very simple and reliable. >>> After you are done you just put on the soft silicon cover and the Thermo >>> will turn itself off, if you want to take a second reading you just press >>> the button again and repeat. You can take 2 or 3 readings one after another >>> and if you do this you’ll see in the app that it will say that there are 2, >>> 3 or however many readings you took which are unassigned, you can tap on >>> each one and assign it or if they are all from yourself you can tap on >>> “Select All” and assign them all to your profile at once. In the same way >>> you can also delete any of the readings you took or delete them all at once. >>> Lastly, the Thermo app will transfer data to the Apple Health app if you >>> set this up and give the permission. >>> OK, here now all the links: >>> Withings website >>> $99.99 US, out of stock >>> Apple Store Canada >>> $129.99, out of stock >>> Amazon Canada >>> Not currently available >>> Best Buy Canada >>> $129.99, out of stock >>> Apple Store United States >>> $99.99, out of stock >>> Amazon United States >>> Not currently available >>> Best Buy United States >>> $99.00, out of stock >>> Walmart United States >>> $88.11 – out of stock >>> Thermo App on the Canadian App Store >>> Thermo App on the US App Store >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Richard Turner >>> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:39 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer >>> Yes. Kinsa has a bluetooth model. >>> Richard >>> (Sent from my iPhone SE) >>> C >>> On Apr 10, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I think there was a fairly extensive discussion recently, probably on this >>> list, about accessible thermometers. I have one, so I did not pay very much >>> attention. A friend of mine unfortunately got the virus. So I lent her my >>> thermometer, since she lives alone and didn’t have a talking thermometer. >>> So now I am on the hunt for an accessible one. I think at some point >>> richard had mentioned a Kinsey or Kenzie something like that, that was >>> supposed to be accessible. But I can’t remember the spelling. I thought I >>> had the app on my phone, but can’t find it. 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