I could see how performance is affected if a Sim card is not working properly. 
But... like I said earlier, never had issues using an older Sim card on a new 
phone. Always did this on my new phone replacements and dozens of others that I 
have helped people set up.

Feliciano
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On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Mike B. <mb69ma...@fastmail.com> wrote:


Here's the post from earlier:

From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.
And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.

Richard

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Long<mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t see 
how it will make a difference.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be
much better.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.
I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

It is all down to personal preference.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

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