MayBe I  MisSpoke:
I'm Not Countin' TheYear,2016 that it was Released Because it was Released with ThePriorYear's iOS, & that was iOS9
I  Presume
it's a  Given, that it will Support the iOS (SoftWare) that it was LaunchedWith

At 09:23 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
When I went to school, 9 plus 3 equals 12, so in fact, it has received 4 updates, 10, 11, 12, and 13.




Richard


> On Apr 20, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Not Countin' TheYears, I'm countin' TheYear that Apple's iOS update is Released
>
> The 1stGeneration SE was Released in Sprin2016 with Apple's iOS9, & so Far it has Received 3Additional iOS updates, as its (currently) on iOS13 (Meanin' its iOS13 supported)
> At 09:03 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
>> Spring of 2016 to Spring of 2020 is 4 years ...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
>>
>> That Remains ToBe seen, & I'm specifically Referrin'To Apple's iOSUpdates on Older MobilePhones (Like the 1stGeneration iPhoneSE). >> If Apple doesn't Allow For iOS14 on its 1stGeneration iPhoneSE, then it would have been only SupportedFor 3Years since the 1stGeneration SE was Released in TheSpring of 2016 & Recieve its Last iOS update in September2019: Apple's iOS13
>>
>> Time will Tell TheStory
>>
>> As you have Described, Apple's Sales of its MobilePhones, the iPhone have Declined Over-the-Years & this could Be a Result of Apple supportin' its iOSDevices LongerThan its Competitors (Mainly Samsung)
>>
>> Let's Remember the 1stGeneration SE was Retired & has TheSpecs of Apple's iPhone6S & iPhone6S+ with Exception to TheFingerPrintReader, which is TheSame as on Apple's iPhone5S along with the BodyFrame of the 5S
>>
>>
>> At 07:42 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
>> >iPhone cells have been struggling for a couple of years now. Entering a
>> >low cost phone into the mix will help them sell tuns of these things.
>> >Especially when their budget offering is better than anything on the
>> >market and offers longer software support than any Android phone out
>> >there. You could buy an iPhone SE2020 and still have it in five years.
>> >On 4/20/2020 9:34 AM, Peter Logan wrote:
>> >>The rumored 5.4 inch phone rumored for this fall will be exactly what
>> >>you are stating ..  If the rumors are true it will be  slightly
>> >>smaller than the 4.7 in. SE...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >><viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn
>> >>Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:29 AM
>> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
>> >>
>> >>They need to keep being innovative in order to keep selling.
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:14 PM
>> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
>> >>
>> >>If Apple ever decided to make a 4.7 inch phone with an OLED screen and
>> >>virtually no screen bezel as well as Face Id so that the home button
>> >>wouldn't have to take up space at the bottom of the screen they could
>> >>easily make such a phone in the size of an old 5S or the original SE.
>> >>Of course whether this is going to happen is anybody's guess, don't
>> >>think it is anything which we'll see in the next couple of years, but
>> >>who knows what they'll do in 3 or 4 years.
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >><viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn
>> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
>> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
>> >>
>> >>Definitely, I don't think there'll ever be a phone that small again.
>> >>I'm guessing that the new ones have 24 icons on the original home
>> >>page, not 20 like the original SE phones.
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
>> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
>> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
>> >>
>> >>You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger.
>> >>
>> >>Dave.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>From: kitty hevener <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>
>> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM
>> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the
>> >>phone I currently have. Since I don’t li like the la larger phones, I
>> >>will definitely be sticking with what I have as long as I can.  You
>> >>might recall that I purchased an se with more space not that long ago.
>> >>It was a mess getting the thing to work, but persistence, help from
>> >>folks on this list, apple accessability desk, and geniuses at the
>> >>apple bar, I succeeded.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> >>Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
>> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is the
>> >>exact same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 4.7
>> >>inch screen.
>> >>
>> >>The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had
>> >>for the most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released in
>> >>the fall of 2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old
>> >>iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 and 2013.
>> >>
>> >>As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possossible thathat the iPhone 6S, 6S >> >>Plus and the original SE still get this yearâ€ââ„¢s iOSiOS release. After
>> >>all, the iPhone 5S which was released in 2013 with iOS 7 preinstalled
>> >>got all the upgrades including iOS 12 in 2018, only last fall did it
>> >>not get iOS 13 any more. This means after the OS it shipped with it
>> >>got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 2013 to 2018 or 6 years.
>> >>
>> >>The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 9
>> >>preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that is
>> >>one version less than the 5S.
>> >>
>> >>My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not
>> >>upgrade to this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb to
>> >>3 Gb of RAM and from the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you
>> >>won’t notice that much of a difference an and anybodyody who argues that
>> >>on this new phone apps open faster, the app switcher come sup faster
>> >>and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a day they’ll save
e
>> >>and whether that is really worth it.
>> >>Anybody who still has an iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably
>> >>upgrade, but I want to see what Apple comes up with this fall. I
>> >>really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but unless there are
>> >>some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the fall of
>> >>2021.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> >><viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin
>> >>Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
>> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE
>> >>1stGeneration will Be Supported  by its
>> >>Forthcomin' iOS14 Personally, I don't Think it will Be Supported
>> >>
>> >>But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws
>> >>AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
>> >>At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>         Richrd, thanks.   Wš Wonder how longong
>> >> will be able to use my current se. I hope at leeast anothher year or two.Â
>> >>
>> >>         From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> >>         Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
>> >>         To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> >>         Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
>> >>
>> >>         It is not the same size as the old one.
>> >>         It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.
>> >>         So current cases will not fit it.
>> >>
>> >>         The old SE is worth $30 in trade.
>> >>         I plan to use my old one as a music
>> >> and book player as a WiFi only device.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         (Sent from my iPhone SE)
>> >>         C
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty
>> >> hevener <kheve...@earthlink.net <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>         ï»Ãâ‚¿
>> >>
>> >>         For clarification, is the new SE the
>> >> same size as the old one?  Has anyone tried
>> >> trading in the old se for the new one?  Any luck?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil
>> >>
>> >>         Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM
>> >>
>> >>         To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> >>
>> >>         Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?
>> >>
>> >>         Thanks!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> >> <viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  > On Behalf
>> >> Of jkt4...@gmail.com <mailto:jkt4...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >>         Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM
>> >>
>> >>         To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> >>
>> >>         Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         Good morning,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         With my sighted wifeâ€â„„¢s help I
>>
>> >> ordered a new SE, b, black, 128 Gb, with Apple
>> >> Care  and arranged to trade in my old iphone
>> >> 8. We were online right at 7 AM CDT. It took
>> >> us 13 minutes from start to finish which I
>> >> thought was pretty good. I think we had to
>> >> restart the process twice. It is supposed  to
>> >> be delivered next Friday, April 24. I had to
>> >> pay the full price plus tax and they ship me a
>> >> package with labels so I can send them the
>> >> iphone 8. When they get the 8 they will credit
>> >> my account $170.00. I didn’t„¢t want to try to to sell the old one locally.
>> >.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         That’s my story, hophope
>>
>> >> you’¢âƒÂ¢‚‰â€Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â„¢re all doing well in these strange times.
>> >>
>> >>         Joe
>> >>
>> >>
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