Great people think a lot, Richard,
Possibly school maths has changed since we went to school but I do agree with your addition -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, 21 April 2020 4:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning When I went to school, 9 plus 3 equals 12, so in fact, it has received 4 updates, 10, 11, 12, and 13. Richard > On Apr 20, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Not Countin' TheYears, I'm countin' TheYear that Apple's iOS update > is Released > > The 1stGeneration SE was Released in Sprin2016 with Apple's iOS9, & > so Far it has Received 3Additional iOS updates, as its (currently) on iOS13 > (Meanin' its iOS13 supported) At 09:03 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote: >> Spring of 2016 to Spring of 2020 is 4 years ... >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Robin >> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:48 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> That Remains ToBe seen, & I'm specifically Referrin'To Apple's iOSUpdates on >> Older MobilePhones (Like the 1stGeneration iPhoneSE). >> If Apple doesn't Allow For iOS14 on its 1stGeneration iPhoneSE, >> then it would have been only SupportedFor 3Years since the >> 1stGeneration SE was Released in TheSpring of 2016 & Recieve its Last >> iOS update in September2019: Apple's iOS13 >> >> Time will Tell TheStory >> >> As you have Described, Apple's Sales of its MobilePhones, the iPhone >> have Declined Over-the-Years & this could Be a Result of Apple >> supportin' its iOSDevices LongerThan its Competitors (Mainly Samsung) >> >> Let's Remember the 1stGeneration SE was Retired & has TheSpecs of >> Apple's iPhone6S & iPhone6S+ with Exception to TheFingerPrintReader, >> which is TheSame as on Apple's iPhone5S along with the BodyFrame of >> the 5S >> >> >> At 07:42 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote: >> >iPhone cells have been struggling for a couple of years now. >> >Entering a low cost phone into the mix will help them sell tuns of these >> >things. >> >Especially when their budget offering is better than anything on the >> >market and offers longer software support than any Android phone out >> >there. You could buy an iPhone SE2020 and still have it in five years. >> >On 4/20/2020 9:34 AM, Peter Logan wrote: >> >>The rumored 5.4 inch phone rumored for this fall will be exactly >> >>what you are stating .. If the rumors are true it will be >> >>slightly smaller than the 4.7 in. SE... >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >><viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn >> >>Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:29 AM >> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> >> >>They need to keep being innovative in order to keep selling. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:14 PM >> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> >> >>If Apple ever decided to make a 4.7 inch phone with an OLED screen >> >>and virtually no screen bezel as well as Face Id so that the home >> >>button wouldn't have to take up space at the bottom of the screen >> >>they could easily make such a phone in the size of an old 5S or the >> >>original SE. >> >>Of course whether this is going to happen is anybody's guess, don't >> >>think it is anything which we'll see in the next couple of years, >> >>but who knows what they'll do in 3 or 4 years. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >><viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn >> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM >> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> >> >>Definitely, I don't think there'll ever be a phone that small again. >> >>I'm guessing that the new ones have 24 icons on the original home >> >>page, not 20 like the original SE phones. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave >> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM >> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> >> >>You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger. >> >> >> >>Dave. >> >> >> >> >> >>From: kitty hevener <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> >> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM >> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> >> >> >> >>Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the >> >>phone I currently have. Since I don’t like the la larger >> >>phones, I will definitely be sticking with what I have as long as I >> >>can. You might recall that I purchased an se with more space not that >> >>long ago. >> >>It was a mess getting the thing to work, but persistence, help from >> >>folks on this list, apple accessability desk, and geniuses at the >> >>apple bar, I succeeded. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >> >>Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM >> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is >> >>the exact same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a >> >>4.7 inch screen. >> >> >> >>The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had >> >>for the most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released >> >>in the fall of 2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the >> >>old iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 and 2013. >> >> >> >>As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possible thathat the iPhone >> >>6S, 6S Plus and the original SE still get this year’s iOSiOS >> >>release. After all, the iPhone 5S which was released in 2013 with >> >>iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades including iOS 12 in 2018, >> >>only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. This means after the >> >>OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 2013 to >> >>2018 or 6 years. >> >> >> >>The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with >> >>iOS 9 preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, >> >>that is one version less than the 5S. >> >> >> >>My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely >> >>not upgrade to this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 >> >>Gb to >> >>3 Gb of RAM and from the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you >> >>won’t notice that much of a difference and anybodyody who argues >> >>that on this new phone apps open faster, the app switcher come sup >> >>faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a day >> >>they’ll save and whether that is really worth it. >> >>Anybody who still has an iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably >> >>upgrade, but I want to see what Apple comes up with this fall. I >> >>really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but unless there >> >>are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the >> >>fall of 2021. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >><viphone@googlegroups.com >> >><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin >> >>Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM >> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be >> >>Supported by its Forthcomin' iOS14 Personally, I don't Think it >> >>will Be Supported >> >> >> >>But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws >> >>AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple may Support the 1stGeneration SE >> >>At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote: >> >> >> >> Richrd, thanks.  Wonder how longong will be able to >> >> use my current se. I hope at least anothher year or two. >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner >> >> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM >> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> >> >> It is not the same size as the old one. >> >> It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8. >> >> So current cases will not fit it. >> >> >> >> The old SE is worth $30 in trade. >> >> I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a >> >> WiFi only device. >> >> >> >> >> >> (Sent from my iPhone SE) >> >> C >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty hevener >> >> <kheve...@earthlink.net <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote: >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old >> >> one? Has anyone tried trading in the old se for the new one? Any >> >> luck? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil >> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM >> >> >> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> >> >> Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com >> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of >> >> jkt4...@gmail.com <mailto:jkt4...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM >> >> >> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> >> >> Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good morning, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> With my sighted wife’s help I >> >> >> ordered a new SE, b, black, 128 Gb, with Apple Care and arranged >> >> to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM CDT. It >> >> took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty >> >> good. I think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed >> >> to be delivered next Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price >> >> plus tax and they ship me a package with labels so I can send them >> >> the iphone 8. When they get the 8 they will credit my account >> >> $170.00. 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