Hi Alan, Would you or someone please explain the difference between backing up through my iPhone to iCloud, and backing up through iTunes? I've read mixed opinions on this and since I backup both my wife's phone and mine both ways I would like to know which backup to use when we get our new SE 2020 iPhones. Thanks much.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Lemly To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:36 AM Subject: RE: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Gera, I did not have a good experience when using the NFC phone to phone setup when upgrading from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 8. I got some sort of confusing response from the new phone that my Apple ID did not match. Since I had only ever had one Apple ID, I decided at that point to restore from my encrypted iTunes backup which worked fine after the delay to re-download all the apps from the cloud. I believe when I get my SE 2020, I'll just restore from a backup and proceed without the phone to phone transfer. Alan Lemly -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from scratch - all help appreciated Exactly what I m wondering too. When I did this method of phone to phone transfer from a 5S to my currently-running SE, it asked me nevertheless if I wanted either an Icloud or an ITunes backup. Shouldn t it have transferred everything from one to another phone (even my music from ITunes) without having me asked it for which backup I wanted to restore from? What s the essence then, in usin the phone to phone method? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 24 abr 2020, a la(s) 2:19 a.m., Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> > escribi : > > ?Richard and others, > > If you have an old phone with IOS 11 on it then setup is even easier, > > Once you have vo switched on, > And your sim card in, > You get asked if you have a aphone or ipad that you could hold close > to your new phone, And that close procsimatry will allow the phones to > talk to each other and a copy of the data from old to new will be > instigated behind the seens. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 4:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from > scratch - all help appreciated > > As far as I know, your instructions Alan are correct. > A couple points though, I would never use something with a sharp point to > remove the tray. Just in case. Call me paranoid, but if you slip and push > too hard, you could do damage. A standard small paper clip end works great > if the sim removal tool is not in the box. > Yes, triple tapping the home button when you power it on will start > VoiceOver. > The one risk in setting up from a backup is that if there are any > lingering problems, they will be inherited. > I'm debating whether to set it up as a new device, then sync with my > computer. > The advantage to using an encrypted backup is that more settings like > passwords are supposed to be included along with email account details. > I may even just call Apple Accessibility and have them help walk me > through it. > Though I'm just stubborn enough to go ahead on my own. > But, I would set it up via wifi first, then put in the sim I think. > I'll be calling my carrier to double check. > > > > > Richard > > >> On Apr 23, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ?Eleanor, >> >> >> >> I'll be going through the same steps since I just ordered a new SE 2020 >> and will be transferring the SIM card from my iPhone 8 to my new SE. I've >> never transferred a SIM before but I'll do my best to answer some of your >> questions. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that when you power on your new iPhone, you should be >> able to press the home button three times to activate Voiceover. But see >> below for other steps you need to do before this. >> >> >> >> I would strongly recommend that you backup your iPhone 8 before doing >> anything else with your new iPhone. Whether it's better to do this over >> the air or to a local computer has changed over the past few years in my >> opinion. In the past, more things were backed up to a local encrypted >> iTunes backup than to iCloud but I'm not sure that is still the case. >> Since your Mac is not available, you should definitely do an iCloud >> backup before setting up your new SE. To do so: >> >> >> >> 1. From your iPhone 8, open Settings, and at the top of the list, >> double tap on your name, Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes and App Store. >> >> 2. Swipe to iCloud and double tap. >> >> 3. Under the heading Apps using iCloud, swipe to iCloud backup and >> double tap. >> >> 4. Make sure iCloud backup is turned on which will be the first in >> the list on the screen that opens. Swipe again to the Backup now button >> and double tap to initiate a current iCloud backup. Give the process a >> few minutes to complete and you will be given the current time of the >> latest backup when it's done. >> >> >> >> I will be following the above steps as well but will also do an encrypted >> iTunes backup on my Windows 7 computer because I really don't believe you >> can have too many backups. >> >> >> >> I've never transferred a SIM card myself because my previous new iPhones >> came with SIM cards. However, since I've switched to a Verizon prepaid >> plan recently, my SE 2020 will not have a SIM card. In portrait mode with >> your iPhone 8's power button near the top right edge, the SIM release >> hole will be in the very middle of that right edge below the power >> button. You will need a SIM card removal tool or a push pin or an >> unfolded paper clip to have something to insert slowly into the SIM >> removal hole in order to release its tray. I personally think a push pin >> like I used to use on a cork bulletin board works the best because it is >> easier to hold onto and apply any needed pressure. If you have such a >> thing, I would recommend doing the SIM removal over a tray with raised >> edges to provide something to catch the SIM to be removed should it >> decide to leap out. This is really all the practical advice I can give >> since I've never replaced a SIM myself. My understanding is that they >> only go in one way and I believe one of their corners may be notched to >> provide for this one way only insertion but I expect others will be able >> to offer much more detailed advice. >> >> >> >> Since I only set up new iPhones every couple of years, I don't remember >> exactly what Voiceover will say when setting up your new SE but I believe >> it offers you the choice of setting it up as a new device or from >> restoring a backup. I always restore from a backup. Also, I'm not sure >> when the best time is for you to transfer your SIM from your iPhone 8 to >> your new SE. My cautionary side tells me to do this after the new phone >> is set up so you'll have a device that works until you're ready to make >> the new one a workable cell phone. I would think all your apps and >> settings should download from the cloud just fine and the new SE would >> work like a WiFi only device until you transfer the SIM to it but others >> more experienced than I will have to comment on this. >> >> >> >> I hope the above will be somewhat helpful. Finally, my apologies to you, >> the list, and the Turtles but I just have to close by saying Eleanor, gee >> I think you're swell. I'm a fan of 60's music. >> >> >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 8:20 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Some important queries re setting up a new IPhone SE from >> scratch - all help appreciated >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> >> >> After any advice/help from people on this list with this situation. I?ve >> ordered a new IPhone SE, and have just had confirmation of its despatch. >> So have some questions re setting it up which I?m hoping people might be >> able to assist with. >> >> >> >> Firstly, I know this sounds somewhat daft, but if anyone could e-mail me >> some idiot-proof instructions on how to set it up from scratch, including >> on how to get Voiceover started from the word go I?d be really grateful >> please?. I?m far more nervous about doing it than normal, probably >> because I know all the shops are closed, and sighted friends who would >> normally be able to assist me can?t do so at the moment due to the >> lockdown. So any step-by-step guide much appreciated. >> >> >> >> Secondly, is it better to set the phone up over the air?, or is it better >> to set it up through my Mac? I ask this because my Mac is currently away >> being fixed/serviced. So I just wondered whether it would make any >> difference which way I did it?, and if so whether I should wait for my >> Mac to return before attempting set-up? >> >> >> >> Finally, can anyone send me some step-by-step idiots instructions on how >> to swap my SIM card over from my currrent IPhone 8 to the new SE?? I?ve >> never done this before, and again, in normal times I?d happily get >> sighted help with this, but obviously I can?t do that right now. 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