Tara,

What store, specifically please, as I will get in touch...


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On 16 Oct 2012, at 18:49, Tara Prakash <taraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I know someone who bought iPhone 4s in London and didn't have to pay VAT on 
> it.
> Don't really know about legalities but this information about a blind person 
> being exempted from vat on iPhone is accurate.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" 
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> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:53 AM
> Subject: Re: You can by apple products in the UK VAT free if your blind.
> 
> 
> Dear Alex and All,
> 
> I have, as this is very important, firstly checked with our internal finance 
> team, and then with HMRC directly.
> 
> You cannot, repeat cannot, get nil rated VAT relief on items purchased within 
> the UK which are, so to speak, off the shelf none adaptive technologies.
> 
> The simple rule of thumb is; if the item comes right off the shelf, and can 
> be used without modification or alteration by the disabled person, then it 
> does not qualify.
> 
> Yes, the iPhone has Voice Over built into it, as do all Apple products, yet, 
> the same inclusive or access technology is included in all of Apple's 
> products. This is not a specific modification for the blind user.
> 
> As such, Apple's products do not qualify for VAT nil rating under this 
> section of law.
> 
> They directed me to the below text, which I have, for ease, copied and pasted 
> below.
> 
> It should be noted, that if you obtain a product without paying VAT, where 
> you should have, you are as liable as the vender. In other words, it is not a 
> defence to say,'well, Apple gave me the VAT nil rating…"
> 
> Goods and services exempt from VAT
> 
> In accordance with group 14 of the zero rate schedule to the value
> added tax act 1983.
> 
> Blind and partially sighted people, and charities working on their
> behalf, can buy certain goods without paying VAT on them. This relief
> from VAT also extends to:
> 
> - the provision of services to adapt items for use by, or to meet the
> needs of, a blind or partially sighted person
> - spare parts, accessories, repair and maintenance of such goods and
> adaptations.
> 
> Goods which have been designed solely for use by disabled or blind and
> partially sighted people and which are for personal or domestic use only
> will be zero-rated for VAT.
> 
> This would include such items as:
> 
> - CCTV reading aids
> - braille display units
> -  braille embossers
> - speech synthesiser units
> - speech output and character enlargement software.
> 
> Computer systems which are specially designed and manufactured solely
> for the use of disabled people may qualify for a composite or reduced
> rate of VAT where components and software similar to the above are
> included in their manufacture.
> 
> Training in the use of such computer systems may also qualify for a
> reduced rate of VAT for individuals where the equipment is used for
> personal or domestic use. You should check with your supplier regarding
> the amount of VAT to be charged when discussing purchase of you computer
> system.
> 
> Relief does not apply to general purpose goods used by disabled people.
> 
> Corrective spectacles and contact lenses are not relieved from VAT.
> 
> If you need to have any general-purpose goods adapted to meet your needs
> as a disabled person, so that you can use them, anything you pay to have
> them adapted is exempt from VAT, but you would have to pay the normal
> rate of VAT on the goods themselves.
> 
> Some building work may also be exempt from VAT, including:
> 
> - ramps, doorways and passages
> -  bathrooms, washrooms and lavatories
> -  lifts.
> 
> -ends-
> 
> The last paragraph here is important, that the actual item itself is not nil 
> rateable, only the adaption. Voice Over is not an adaption, it is not 
> something specially installed for you, its there for any user, sighted or 
> otherwise.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
> 
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
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> On 16 Oct 2012, at 14:26, Alex Wallis <alexwallis...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> I just found out something interesting that I didn't know before.
>> If your registered blind in the UK you can by apple products v a t free, so 
>> that means you get about 20 percent off.
>> In the case of the iPhone 5 64 gb model this would save you about £140,
>> I assume this applies to all apple products, given that they all include 
>> VoiceOver these days.
>> I new about being able to get products specially designed for the visually 
>> impaired v a t free, but had no idea this applied to Apple.
>> I rang my local store, and they were aware of this, I heard from someone 
>> else that the store in covent garden in London is also aware of this, but 
>> the person also said that the store in regents street wasn't aware of it, so 
>> it sounds like not all stores know about this, still its definitely worth 
>> knowing about.
>> Hope people find the above information useful.
>> Alex.
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