yes, Richard, you are right, it's time. Please send me the links. I will order 
the keyboard pronto. Thank you. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I can recommend the Logitech K480 from Amazon for around $30.
> Its keys feel like the same keys I have on my computer USB keyboard.
> It does not have the number pad, which you don’t need for an iPhone anyway.
> It is very sturdy.
> It can pair with up to three devices.
> It takes two triple A batteries and they last at least 2 years.
> If you want to take it with you a lot, there is a $15 carrying case that is 
> quite nice made by Hermit Shell.
> If you are interested, I can send you the links on Amazon.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: voice over instability
>  
> Richard funny, I came to that same conclusion yesterday! About needing to get 
> a Bluetooth keyboard. I've seen a full-size one once that someone offered me 
> but it was broken. if I go that route I'm definitelygoing to want  a 
> full-size keyboard.  I've had wicked trouble with carpal tunnel in years 
> past. I don't need to do anything that might aggravate that such as type on a 
> small  little card size Bluetooth keyboard or even the face of the iPhone.
>  
> I believe I listed off the three iPhones that I possess with what version 
> each of them had on them a day or two ago. That might've been a post that was 
> too garbled for you to understand. I hope I do less and less of that with 
> each new post I create!
> Deidre
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  It was never clear that you bought the SE 2020.
> Now it is, so ignore the rest of my message.
> May I suggest you get a bluetooth keyboard so you are not relying on 
> dictation, unless you cannot type, in which case, you are stuck with 
> dictation and being misunderstood.
>  
> 
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
> just stops you from enjoying the good."
>  
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2020, at 9:51 AM, deidre muccio <deidreandlou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Richard whatIn the world are you saying here in the world are you saying 
> here? did I not indeed just purchase the SE 2020 phone for $449 for the added 
> gigs plus  insurance plus tax… Came in three colors,  red black and I can't 
> remember what the other one was. It does have 13.4.1 on it. That's what I'm 
> using. And by the way the cases I have for this SC 2020 and the 6s and the 
> six all fit each other. So I'm not sure why everyone saying there of a 
> different size.
> before the SE 2020 came out, and I was eagerly awaiting its release, I bought 
> a iPhone 6s from consumer cellular for $150. That's what I used before the SE 
> 2020. I still use it. Are use both.
> I hope this all makes sense at this point. My dictations haven't been great 
> because the voiceover hasn't been cooperating as fully as I would like. For 
> instance I can't seem to backspace to delete characters. It just makes that 
> noise like I can't go anywhere until I shift it to work go back a word and 
> then I can delete going forward character by character. It's very strange. 
> i'm wondering if what's happening is when the rotors on text selection and 
> character it moves itself to something else until I change it again. it's  
> ridiculous.
> deidre
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
>  
> What you wrote was that you bought a cheap 6S, running 13.3.2.
> If it is the old iPhone SE, then there is no number in the model name.
> It is just an iPhone SE; plain and simple.
> Apple confused everyone when they didn't use a number for the SE model and I 
> gather SE may have stood for Special Edition in house at Apple.
>  
> Likewise, the new iPhone SE has no number really; but is often referred to as 
> the iPhone SE 2020 to help distinguish it from the old iPhone SE.
>  
> So, a 6S and SE are not the same animal.  However, to confuse things even 
> further, the SE has the same internal hardware and processing chip as the 6S; 
> but is the size of the 5S.
>  
> And before anyone jumps in to say the iPhone X didn't have a number; it does, 
> the X is the Roman numeral for 10.
>  
> So, I suspect you now have the old iPhone SE since the new iPhone SE released 
> this year comes with iOS 13.4.1.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: voice over instability
>  
> did I really write SC or SZ, I know it is an SE. And you're right I do have 
> the most recent update. I wasthinking that the 6S has yet another update I 
> could graduate to but I don't think I'm going to do that because I'll 
> probably have the same problems I'm having on the New phone which I was very 
> eagerly awaiting to purchase. I succeeded here in properly writing SE as in 
> Sam and elephant!
> Thanks all.
> deidre
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> On May 11, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi Deidre. iOS 13.4.1, is the latest update.
>  
> Also, i think you mean, the iPhone SE, not SC.
>  
> Dave.
>  
>  
> -----Original Message----- From: deidre muccio
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 8:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: voice over instability
>  
> Richard, I am indeed using the new SC with 13.4.1. There's one more update I 
> could do. I don't didn't have any trouble with the success using an issue 
> even earlier version of 13. I think part of the problem when writing a 
> message you're trying to edit something in a Gmail mail message, is that I am 
> activating inadvertently the text formatting or all those things that try and 
> insert themselves like do you want to insert a picture or do you want to do 
> some kind of text formatting and then it just throws me just the whole 
> voiceover thing no longer is working with the text that I had started 
> writing. And like just now I'm dictating this for a second time. Somehow it 
> just got deleted, the whole message. i'm afraid to even go back and try and 
> edit this now for fear it's going to do something quirky all over again. So 
> please excuse the errors in this message. God how I miss my PC and outlook 
> which I am responsible for corrupting after trying to delete 27,000 messages 
> or at least go through 27,000 messages to get rid of the things that were 
> hidden in an unread folder that were copies of other things that I have long 
> since deleted. My mistake.
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