Richard whatIn the world are you saying here in the world are you saying here? 
did I not indeed just purchase the SE 2020 phone for $449 for the added gigs 
plus  insurance plus tax… Came in three colors,  red black and I can't remember 
what the other one was. It does have 13.4.1 on it. That's what I'm using. And 
by the way the cases I have for this SC 2020 and the 6s and the six all fit 
each other. So I'm not sure why everyone saying there of a different size.
before the SE 2020 came out, and I was eagerly awaiting its release, I bought a 
iPhone 6s from consumer cellular for $150. That's what I used before the SE 
2020. I still use it. Are use both.
I hope this all makes sense at this point. My dictations haven't been great 
because the voiceover hasn't been cooperating as fully as I would like. For 
instance I can't seem to backspace to delete characters. It just makes that 
noise like I can't go anywhere until I shift it to work go back a word and then 
I can delete going forward character by character. It's very strange. i'm 
wondering if what's happening is when the rotors on text selection and 
character it moves itself to something else until I change it again. it's  
ridiculous.
deidre


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> On May 12, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> What you wrote was that you bought a cheap 6S, running 13.3.2.
> If it is the old iPhone SE, then there is no number in the model name.
> It is just an iPhone SE; plain and simple.
> Apple confused everyone when they didn't use a number for the SE model and I 
> gather SE may have stood for Special Edition in house at Apple.
> 
> Likewise, the new iPhone SE has no number really; but is often referred to as 
> the iPhone SE 2020 to help distinguish it from the old iPhone SE.
> 
> So, a 6S and SE are not the same animal.  However, to confuse things even 
> further, the SE has the same internal hardware and processing chip as the 6S; 
> but is the size of the 5S.
> 
> And before anyone jumps in to say the iPhone X didn't have a number; it does, 
> the X is the Roman numeral for 10.
> 
> So, I suspect you now have the old iPhone SE since the new iPhone SE released 
> this year comes with iOS 13.4.1.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: voice over instability
> 
> did I really write SC or SZ, I know it is an SE. And you're right I do have 
> the most recent update. I wasthinking that the 6S has yet another update I 
> could graduate to but I don't think I'm going to do that because I'll 
> probably have the same problems I'm having on the New phone which I was very 
> eagerly awaiting to purchase. I succeeded here in properly writing SE as in 
> Sam and elephant! 
> Thanks all.
> deidre
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 11, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Deidre. iOS 13.4.1, is the latest update.
>> 
>> Also, i think you mean, the iPhone SE, not SC.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: deidre muccio
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 8:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: voice over instability
>> 
>>> Richard, I am indeed using the new SC with 13.4.1. There's one more update 
>>> I could do. I don't didn't have any trouble with the success using an issue 
>>> even earlier version of 13. I think part of the problem when writing a 
>>> message you're trying to edit something in a Gmail mail message, is that I 
>>> am activating inadvertently the text formatting or all those things that 
>>> try and insert themselves like do you want to insert a picture or do you 
>>> want to do some kind of text formatting and then it just throws me just the 
>>> whole voiceover thing no longer is working with the text that I had started 
>>> writing. And like just now I'm dictating this for a second time. Somehow it 
>>> just got deleted, the whole message. i'm afraid to even go back and try and 
>>> edit this now for fear it's going to do something quirky all over again. So 
>>> please excuse the errors in this message. God how I miss my PC and outlook 
>>> which I am responsible for corrupting after trying to delete 27,000 
>>> messages or at least go through 27,000 messages to get rid of the things 
>>> that were hidden in an unread folder that were copies of other things that 
>>> I have long since deleted. My mistake.
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