They Charge for “handling” but ship it free matter. I have no problem with them raising the price to dollar 15 for the stand but to charge I believe $5 to package the product and ship it free matter I do have a problem with.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Scanning solution Amen Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> On May 16, 2020, at 9:33 PM, "chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> " <chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Ah, you’re right. Denis said “They have them. Note they charge for free mater shipping.” Sorry I got that wrong. He doesn’t say that they charge for shipping this stand though or that this stand is covered under free matter shipping from the post office. He also goes on to say “Typical NFB not helping the blind but screwing them over.” It’s statements like this that make me question how accurate these statements are. Is he more motivated to pass on information and help out someone else or stick it to the NFB? IMHO, these gratuitous jabs that are unnecessarily tacked on to what might be perfectly accurate statements end up just causing more harm then good. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 10:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scanning solution Early on, Dennis Long said that the NFB charged for shipping. But he has not responded after I asked how much they were charging. I had written the Independence Market asking about the stand as people who have seen mine wanted to know where to get it, and because Tomek Wardiga, the creator of these stands, was no longer able to ship free matter, I was trying to find out. The people at the Independence Market have never responded to my emails. So, at this point, it is unsubstantiated about them charging for shipping, but the statement was made. Just waiting for someone to confirm with specifics, or clear it up. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com <https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc9ce9178e6a74febe03c08d7fa1b645e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252867863628106&sdata=ZLytaCZ4ZLdpMcKyIQrTLBmbhKFUOajdFoYlL4RYmzk%3D&reserved=0> On May 16, 2020, at 8:35 PM, "chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> " <chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: I don’t see anything in this thread that says the NFB was charging for shipping. There’s a statement on how the post office wasn’t giving permission for this stand to be shipped as free matter and then there’s a statement that the NFB was considering carrying this stand as part of their Independence Market. I’m always weary of broad unsubstantiated statements like this that seem more like someone has a bone to pick then actually conveying useful and accurate information. Even if the NFB were able to ship these stands as free matter, it wouldn’t be fair for them to pass on the cost of the postal shipping charges to the customer, but it could still involve staff spending time and resources shipping these stands out. I wouldn’t have a problem paying an appropriate amount of money for this service. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scanning solution It's appropriate to charge for shipping if you are paying to have it shipped. It is not if you are shipping free matter. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Lumpkin <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 6:14 PM Subject: RE: Scanning solution I think it’s perfectly appropriate for NFB to charge for shipping. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scanning solution How much are they charging? Since I got no reply, just wondering. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com <https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc9ce9178e6a74febe03c08d7fa1b645e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252867863638098&sdata=CtYI%2Fl%2F7nnIobhRMf1TslQ3%2BOY%2FV9dylEW6aX9RapJ0%3D&reserved=0> On May 16, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com <mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote: They have them. Note they charge for free mater shipping. Typical NFB not helping the blind but screwing them over. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Scanning solution The Fopydo stand is my first choice, but he was having major issues with his Post Office refusing to send things free matter unless he went through a bunch of hoops to get a special permit. At one point, the Independence Market of the NFB was considering carrying them. I wrote them, but have not had a response in 10 days. Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scanning solution Take a look at: http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind <https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffopydo.com%2Fscanningstandfortheblind&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc9ce9178e6a74febe03c08d7fa1b645e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252867863638098&sdata=MX%2BvwLZk%2FOoezQdBme5EHMI4tWqfwdGBoM6quXkgBSM%3D&reserved=0> Malcolm Parfitt On 12 May 2020, at 20:05, bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> wrote: Where can I purchase a stand? Many thanks, James B From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Scanning solution Since you wrote to the iPhone list, I'm guessing you plan to do this with an iPhone. I do not know of any scanners that work with iPhones, beyond what you can do with the iPhone camera itself. For A4 documents, I'm assuming these are text documents, I think Voice Dream Scanner is the best solution: You may also want a scanning stand so you don't have to hold the phone about 12 inches above the document if you are doing a ton of these. Is the plan for the photos to just digitize them? If so, just use the Camera and have someone sighted crop them so just your photo is left. With photos, you want to follow the same distance ratio as with documents, and have the phone about as far above the photo as the photo is tall. That could get tricky which is why you will need sighted assistance to crop the picture later. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com <https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc9ce9178e6a74febe03c08d7fa1b645e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252867863648093&sdata=7RFXx%2Bv7GEL0l%2B2ygCmTWQ%2FUNNeoN5hWxU8SwIIJm0I%3D&reserved=0> On May 12, 2020, at 2:57 AM, Ian Harrison <ihcla...@gmail.com <mailto:ihcla...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi listers, I need to get a scanner for photos and A4 documents. Wireless would be nice but not if expensive. The main project is a load of photos my wife has but doesn’t have the time to scan them herself. 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