Try: http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind
Malcolm Parfitt > On 18 May 2020, at 09:38, Sharon S <ko...@areujoking.com> wrote: > > > Hi, could someone please send me a link for where I can buy the Fopydo stand? > I tried going through his site but have received no response. My mum was > looking at buying one for me awhile ago and after asking about the book > reading attachment we heard no more. I have tried sending a message to the > selling the other day to see if I can get a response now but if there is > another place to buy it then I would like to have the link. > > Thanks for any help. > From Shaz. > Canberra, Australia. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, 18 May 2020 5:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > Thanks Sieghard for chiming in from a business perspective. > I don't think $20 is too high for that stand. > Before you get a ton of emails, NFB is very much a private nonprofit. > Before anyone else chimes in, all nonprofits who sell things, have to make > enough of a profit to stay in business; maybe not as much as a retailer since > the nonprofit isn't paying property tax, etc., but they have to pay utility > bills, rent or building maintenance if they own their building, etc. > When I was involved in testing the prototypes of the Fopydo stand, I told him > he should charge more; but he was doing it as a service, not as a money maker. > All would have been fine if the post office where he lives would have allowed > him to continue. > He had letters from each customer stating that they are blind and using the > stand to scan printed documents; but that apparently wasn't good enough for > them. > O well. > > > > Richard > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it > just stops you from enjoying the good." > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > www.turner42.com > > > > On May 17, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > > And if the person who makes this stand and who used to sell it for $12 now > sells it for $12 to NFB you should not expect them to sell it for $15, that > is a 20% margin and no business can survive on that. > As a retailer I have often come across somebody who thought they had this > awesome product and they wanted me to sell it. At the same time they would > sell it themselves for say $50 and then I asked them what I would have to pay > for the product. In many cases they told me the would give me a 10% or 15% > discount for selling their product and they were surprised when I told them > that in retail that unfortunately does not cut it. It is often impossible to > explain to somebody that they would have to sell it to me for $30 if they > want me to sell it for $50 if it should be worth my while or, if they want to > sell it to me for $45 and I would have to sell it for $75 to make a decent > margin that they also should sell it for that price themselves. > Of course if they want me to sell something on consignment where they give me > the product and I only pay them for what I sell I can go a bit lower, but at > the same time I may have competing products which I sell at a 35% or 40% > margin and there is very little incentive for me to try and sell the customer > that other product where I may only make a 25% margin. > And if shipping is involved I don’t blame anybody who charges a handling fee > if they have to stock, pack and ship a product for which they make a $3 > profit. I understand the NFB in the US is a government agency or maybe I’m > wrong, here in Canada we have the CNIB (Canadian Federation for the Blind) > and while they are a government agency, they also sell products for profit at > their stores and I don’t blame them because just as with most government > agencies funding is always a problem and they often have to find ways to make > a bit of money to support their programs. > > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis > Long > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Scanning solution > > Yes it was something like $19.98 to me that’s $20. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 8:01 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > So, are they charging $20 total? > Tomek charged $12, and shipped free matter without charging anything for > handling. He would ship on the weekends while he was home from his day job > which often required some travel. > He was not making any money really other than being able to continue buying > the materials. > So, on the one hand, if he is still able to make them because the NFB is > selling them for a small profit, that is fine. > The week of the 25th, I will be writing up a review of another inexpensive > stand option. > This one is called the Scanner Bin. > I saw one already assembled, but I'm getting a new one and will see how > assembly goes. > > > Richard > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it > just stops you from enjoying the good." > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > www.turner42.com > > > > On May 16, 2020, at 11:06 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I responded Richard I just saw your message. The NFB should also bring back > online ordering. They said they were going to but haven’t for whatever > reason. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:48 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > Early on, Dennis Long said that the NFB charged for shipping. > But he has not responded after I asked how much they were charging. > I had written the Independence Market asking about the stand as people who > have seen mine wanted to know where to get it, and because Tomek Wardiga, the > creator of these stands, was no longer able to ship free matter, I was trying > to find out. > The people at the Independence Market have never responded to my emails. > So, at this point, it is unsubstantiated about them charging for shipping, > but the statement was made. > Just waiting for someone to confirm with specifics, or clear it up. > > > Richard > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it > just stops you from enjoying the good." > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > www.turner42.com > > > > > > On May 16, 2020, at 8:35 PM, "chalt...@gmail.com" <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I don’t see anything in this thread that says the NFB was charging for > shipping. There’s a statement on how the post office wasn’t giving permission > for this stand to be shipped as free matter and then there’s a statement that > the NFB was considering carrying this stand as part of their Independence > Market. > > I’m always weary of broad unsubstantiated statements like this that seem more > like someone has a bone to pick then actually conveying useful and accurate > information. > > Even if the NFB were able to ship these stands as free matter, it wouldn’t be > fair for them to pass on the cost of the postal shipping charges to the > customer, but it could still involve staff spending time and resources > shipping these stands out. I wouldn’t have a problem paying an appropriate > amount of money for this service. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Andy > Baracco > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:54 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > It's appropriate to charge for shipping if you are paying to have it shipped. > It is not if you are shipping free matter. > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry Lumpkin > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 6:14 PM > Subject: RE: Scanning solution > > I think it’s perfectly appropriate for NFB to charge for shipping. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > How much are they charging? > Since I got no reply, just wondering. > > > Richard > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it > just stops you from enjoying the good." > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > www.turner42.com > > > > On May 16, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > They have them. Note they charge for free mater shipping. Typical NFB not > helping the blind but screwing them over. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:17 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Scanning solution > > The Fopydo stand is my first choice, but he was having major issues with his > Post Office refusing to send things free matter unless he went through a > bunch of hoops to get a special permit. > At one point, the Independence Market of the NFB was considering carrying > them. > I wrote them, but have not had a response in 10 days. > > > > Richard > "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > Take a look at: > > http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind > > Malcolm Parfitt > > > On 12 May 2020, at 20:05, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Where can I purchase a stand? > > Many thanks, > > James B > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:19 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > Since you wrote to the iPhone list, I'm guessing you plan to do this with an > iPhone. > I do not know of any scanners that work with iPhones, beyond what you can do > with the iPhone camera itself. > For A4 documents, I'm assuming these are text documents, I think Voice Dream > Scanner is the best solution: > You may also want a scanning stand so you don't have to hold the phone about > 12 inches above the document if you are doing a ton of these. > Is the plan for the photos to just digitize them? > If so, just use the Camera and have someone sighted crop them so just your > photo is left. > With photos, you want to follow the same distance ratio as with documents, > and have the phone about as far above the photo as the photo is tall. > That could get tricky which is why you will need sighted assistance to crop > the picture later. > > > Richard > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it > just stops you from enjoying the good." > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > www.turner42.com > > > > > > > On May 12, 2020, at 2:57 AM, Ian Harrison <ihcla...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi listers, > > I need to get a scanner for photos and A4 documents. Wireless would be nice > but not if expensive. The main project is a load of photos my wife has but > doesn’t have the time to scan them herself. Therefore it is my job to do the > tedious task and it would be nice to have simple software that could detect > the edges of the photos automatically and prefereably be voice over > accessible. Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Ian > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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